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Hotep® Master Merchant Extender (DISCONTINUED)
Version: 0.0
by: tomtomhotep [More]
This add-on requires Master Merchant.
You need to have Master Merchant installed and enabled to use this add-on.


I think everyone agrees that the only deficiency of Master Merchant is that it can only scan the guilds to which you belong. This add-on compensates for that limitation.

Do you try to use MM to know what prices your items are selling for, only to find out you have no data, or too little data to get a good average?

What do you do then? You beg your guildies for a price check, and hope some of them answer you with more up-to-date average prices?

Well now that process can be automated! This add-on lets you automatically call for a price-check on your current chat channel, or broadcast it to all of your guild channels.

Everyone else running this add-on will automatically respond on that chat channel with their MM data for the item. This add-on will then automatically read that data from chat, and PERMANENTLY average all of that data into your MM data, so a much more accurate average price will be displayed on your item's tooltip.

In this way, everyone using this add-on will build up a more comprehensive database of sale prices, not just prices from the guilds you belong to.

Usage:

This add-on is used with slash commands:

Type: /hotep pc, then a space, then link your item to chat, then press enter. So your command would look like:
/hotep pc [itemlink]
pc stands for price check, and will use your currently selected chat channel. To broadcast to all of your guilds, type pcguilds instead of pc

/hotep by itself will give you help.

The zip file actually contains 17 add-ons: one main add-on and 16 "mule" add-ons. (Just like Master Merchant)



Disclaimer:

This add-on is not affiliated with, endorsed, created, or maintained by the author(s) of Master Merchant. It is an original creation of @tomtomhotep. It contains absolutely no code from Master Merchant. It interfaces with the MM add-on by accessing that add-on's global table.




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Unread 11/27/16, 11:34 AM  
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Originally Posted by XKent
Good idea but poor realization leading user to have completely wrong average price/ sales amount...

I can illustrate this by simple example:

So, we want to improve our price info on goods X

1)
UserA is member of guild A // Guild A have such info about X: 10 sales / 100 average
UserB is member of guild B // Guild B have such info about X: 10 sales / 50 average

2)
UserA asking UserB to share info about X
Query done and now UserA info looks like this: 20 sales / 75 average

It seems all working fine, but UserA asked UserB about good X one more time...
3)
and now UserA info looks like: 30 sales / 66.66 average (which isn't right)

4)
You can loop step 3 many times increasing total sales count and pooling average price far away from true value
Aww, Fiddlebumbers! FATAL FLAW. And I cannot resolve it.

Sorry folks, I didn't have anyone to test it extensively with.


Originally Posted by XKent
I see only one way of getting right results: you must track every unique sale transaction separately, of course this can not be done by sending short chat messages...
You are correct, sir!


Originally Posted by XKent
Idk if it is possible to make special/hidden chat channel and utilize it for structured data transfer.
NOPE!
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Unread 10/17/16, 04:42 AM  
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Good idea but poor realization leading user to have completely wrong average price/ sales amount...

I can illustrate this by simple example:

So, we want to improve our price info on goods X

1)
UserA is member of guild A // Guild A have such info about X: 10 sales / 100 average
UserB is member of guild B // Guild B have such info about X: 10 sales / 50 average

2)
UserA asking UserB to share info about X
Query done and now UserA info looks like this: 20 sales / 75 average

It seems all working fine, but UserA asked UserB about good X one more time...
3)
and now UserA info looks like: 30 sales / 66.66 average (which isn't right)

4)
You can loop step 3 many times increasing total sales count and pooling average price far away from true value


I see only one way of getting right results: you must track every unique sale transaction separately, of course this can not be done by sending short chat messages... Idk if it is possible to make special/hidden chat channel and utilize it for structured data transfer.

Best regards!
Last edited by XKent : 10/17/16 at 01:17 PM.
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Unread 10/11/16, 11:51 AM  
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oops

Originally Posted by Newk
When you add the addon via Minion, all the folder's are in a folder called MM, so it won't work unless you move them from that folder to the Addon folder :P

oops. I didn't mean to include my "MM" folder in the zip file. That will be fixed when I re-upload today with new API #.



BTW, Sorry for the late reply, but this website never sent me an email notification that you posted a comment, and I am subscribed!
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Unread 10/02/16, 07:41 AM  
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Addon not found

Newk is right. If you add the addon with Minion it won't show up in your addon list in game. To fix this you need to go to the folder where your addons are stored. For example mine is in.

C:\Users\myname\Documents\Elder Scrolls Online\live\AddOns

Here you will find a folder named MM. Just cut the folders from inside MM and paste them into your AddOns folder. This will let the game recognize the addon.

Otherwise very cool addon.
Thanks
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Unread 09/28/16, 11:04 PM  
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When you add the addon via Minion, all the folder's are in a folder called MM, so it won't work unless you move them from that folder to the Addon folder :P
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Unread 08/25/16, 02:13 PM  
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Intersting, but doesn't seam to work.
I type in /hotep pc then link my item, but nothing posts in the guild chat.
Plus the other party has to have this addon for it to "talk" to eachother.

Would love to just right click on someones chat post and "Import to MM"

I'm using Price Tracker addon to make up for the missing data.

Also I noticed MM does not auto update pricing database when I "see" an item while searching.
MM said it had no data on an item but I did a search in guild store, found it, but MM still said no data.
Where Price Tracker updated right away displaying seen 3 times for XXXXX.

Not sure whats going on there.
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Unread 08/12/16, 12:38 PM  
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Originally Posted by QuadroTony
i like it! but as soon as you can easy post and edit fake price check info, it must be not so good
The other concern I'd have is that I have outlier prices turned off on my MM data, but not everyone does, and especially with new items those outliers can be quite drastic... This just pulls the average even if it's an average of one sale and says it's as good as my weighted averages from my guilds with ten sales? Or am I misunderstanding the way it would work?
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Unread 08/12/16, 12:14 PM  
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Re: help

Originally Posted by mendisabal
Hello Friend , Thank you for your work , but I can not understand how to properly use your addon ,
can you have a video step by step how to find out the price of goods in other guilds where I do not belong ,I will be very grateful .
http://screencast.com/t/S5evu5kAEhC
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Unread 08/12/16, 08:47 AM  
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help

Hello Friend , Thank you for your work , but I can not understand how to properly use your addon ,
can you have a video step by step how to find out the price of goods in other guilds where I do not belong ,I will be very grateful .
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Unread 07/15/16, 10:25 PM  
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i like it! but as soon as you can easy post and edit fake price check info, it must be not so good

please, add a feature to whisper to seller in the guildstore if you right click on an item!!!

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