I can manipulate the bar that I have already setup in the gui xml, and there is a backdrop there as well... this is why I am confused....I am positive it is some small error in my code....but I went to sleep after tinkering for a just a bit last night...so I will take another crack when I fresh eyes in a bit.
EDIT: Seems to be working fine now??? typical....once in a while we just need to quit ESO alltogether and reopen files
I feel silly...but hey, this stuff happens.