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The problem I have with authors using other people's libraries is this. When the library goes out of date they have to rely on the original author to update them. I have 4 lib addons that are in my addons menu that are currently out of date but as they don't appear in my addons folder by themselves I must assume they're loaded under one of my addons and have to hunt them down and manually update them myself. End users should not have to do this to keep their addons up to date.
LibAsync LibLoadedAddons are two of them.
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Second, regardless of if a library is kept updated or not, there's many addons which would not exist because of one library or another.
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This library will be removed soon. Please change your addons to not use it any longer!
Since the addition of the txt file tag Code:
## AddOnVersion: <unsigned integer here> Code:
## OptionalDependsOn: <addonName here>>=<AddOnVersionUnsignedInteger_of_that_other_addon> Code:
## DependsOn: <addonName here>>=<AddOnVersionUnsignedInteger_of_that_other_addon> Please tell the other addon's dev to add the ## AddOnVersion: tag to their addons so you can use them. In Addition the other addon's could also provide a global lua variabe which one would be able to reference after EVENT_ADD_ON_LOADED to checkif it exists, if a .version is given or if any .functionName ~= nil you wish to use in your addon. If you cannot wait for the devs to respond/do something: Remove the ## DependsOn: LibLoadedAddons or ## OptioanlDependsOn: LibLoadedAddons line from the addon's txt file. Make sure other named libraries and addons "in the same line after the :" ARE KEPT/NOT REMOVED! In the addon's code you will find lines like Code:
local LIBLA = LibLoadedAddons if not LIBLA then d("The library LibLoadedAddons is missing! This addon won't work without it and aborts now!") end
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-> Added obsolete message to chat upon dependency to this library
This is fine and worthwhile to indicate a player has one or more addons which depend on this lib. Just, this message is repeated at every zone change or similar like thieves den, house, dungeon.... Maybe, for the next 6 weeks, one message per login could be enough ![]() Edit: After searching, for me it is just 1 Addon, MailBuddy
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Nope, it is intended to nerve and show again each time so you tell the devs. Else it will be ignored (had this in the past too often already).
Once the addon in question is changed it will be gone and this could be tomorrow if the devs react ![]() If not, the devs got no time, do not play anymore and maybe the addon in question could be exchanged with another as well then. As I know there are only a few addons using this lib this should be fine, as you said. Most were changed already. Others I don't know yet will be made visible "by repeated messages" until the users decide it's annoyingly enough to get changed ![]()
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I am not chasing down addon developers to inform them of a change required. Spamming my chat every time I zone or use a wayshrine will not change that.
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But thanks for sharing your way of sight. This enlightens us ![]() And I'm not going to chase down 1000000 of users OR addon devs neither, so this is the only way to "reach all of you using it, and trying to make the community react". You either need to live with that for a few days/weeks or disable the addons until they get fixed. Easy
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Spamming my chat
Second, apparently the Chat message is sent simply because the library was loaded by the game client. If not, then it does not identify any add-on which has called it (i.e., any add-on which uses its features). (1) Why do you believe that players can identify every addon which uses your library? (2) Why do you believe that players are able to contact any developer whose add-on does use your library? (3) What happens when no one maintains such an add-on any longer? That does not mean that it is no longer useful to the player. But, if it calls any library, then there is a risk that, at best, it will become useless. IMHO, you should put those "If you cannot wait for the devs to respond/do something" instructions (?) in the Addon Info tab of this addon. If you put them where they belong, then we would not have to search through pages of comments to find them, would we? The simplest way to stop this library from spamming the Chat zone channel with its current message is to re-install its prior version (if the player has the installation file or can obtain it). Of course, if the current version contains important changes, then they will not benefit an add-on which uses the library. Have you noticed that there are now at least three add-ons, for which the name begins with the three letters Lib? If a player does not use the features of LibGuildStore, the default outcome might not be in their best interest. There are "settings" in the other two, for which there is no explanation on their ESOUI Addon Info tab. Indeed, there is no meaningful documentation on that tab for either one of them. Then again, there are at least two add-ons that are de facto libraries, but their respective names do not begin with the three letters "lib" or "Lib". Also, they are not listed among those in the group in which Libraries are apparently loaded. These issues are not mine to solve! So, please STOP SPAMMING MY ZONE CHAT WITH YOUR MESSAGE SENT ONLY WITH CAPITAL LETTERS!! .... ah, never mind, I will re-install the prior version of the library, at least until a successor, if any, is released. |
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Re: Spamming my chat
Guys, calm down and simply read what the message tells you? You always rage about stuff that changes and blame the wrong ones.
It's always the same persons ranting here and writing nonsense! If you go on like this I'll simply quit the game, remove my addons and libraries. I'll also add messages that noone would be allowed to use my code and libs and addons anymore as the few guys here always ranting and blaming the wrong ones are causing such a drastic move. You step on my nerves and you remove the fun and joy of playing and addon development! ![]() ![]() Why can't you simply accept the change, adopt, do how I ask you for to PLEASE read the message and help me and others to find the addns, and ignore a simpel chat message for ~a few weeks? I won't start a discussion anymore! Further posts like "I won't help to..." "It's not my duty..." will be deleted. Accept it, act like described, help the community or simply shut up and leave us alone, doing the best to keep all running for you guys. it's not about the libraries or addons, it's about a community here, helping each other. That's why I ask the community to help and find out. If you won#t participate and think it's not your task: Fine. Then just ignore it and play the MMO game as a single person. If you find you should not receive these messages: Disable your addons. Simple as it is. btw: I had written in the comment below, which was clearly shown at top, advising you how you as a user are able to find and see what addons are causing this, before you guys spam this here with your nonsense and make it a major problem for the world... Read it, should help.
You have found your own solution at the bottom of your loooooong accusing text. Why didn't you just do that from the start and deleted your text then? This is such an unsocial behaviour ![]() ![]()
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Please recognize that your specific message "appealing" to the community of players for help was neither an announcement nor a request. It was and is a demand (!) -- one which is very rude, arrogant, and outrageous. Although, if I may say so, it was not surprising, considering the attitude which you have often expressed about those who use your software. There is nothing inherently wrong with sending a message via the zone Chat channel. It is the message that was sent which inspired the reactions that you received here. Naturally, you are not the first programmer to be inept at communicating with the users of their software. I have my own sour experiences in doing that. So, we need to let bygones be bygones, and figure out what we need to do to resolve this issue as expeditiously as possible. |
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Re: Re: Re: Spamming my chat
I should simply not answer you as the time invested here could be used for more productive and nicer tasks.
But as you "at least" said sorry at the start of your answer I'll try to make it, once agan, clear to you (nevertheless I know you won't accept it, at least I try to explain it to you...). Last words (and it's not only me who already told you that your messages simply are wrong and you are assuming things you do not understand how it works within ESO addon development): I'm not offending anyone, I'm just getting annoyed that always someone will rant and put more effort into "writing nonsense and accusations" instead of simply accepting the change and move on! Your written first message, as I wrote with my first answer, was just nosense and you liked to express to the world that you dislike the chat messages. In the end you found out yourself, that there is more than 1 easy solution to end this chat message for you. But you rather liked to rant and write a long text about it. This is not standard SOFTWRAE DEVELOPMENT and your standard methods of software development and communication and whatever you think should be done the way you want it to happen do not apply here! We are NOT A TEAM, and we are NOT IN BUSINESS here! So simply stop this comaprison please. This is addon development of a game, where we invest free time and believe that the community will help and understand. If I need a change to be done and need help I ask for it, via chat, forums, whatever is possible. If you say it's a demand, then well, whatever you think it is: Call it whatever you want. I was simply asking for help via chat message! I did not force you to follow the text by any means. There is no other way to communicate with those using the particular addons/libs. I do not know email adresses and other communication channels, nor do I even know any users nor devs using the addons/having the lib implemented. There is no way to find out so the way to contact them is the chat. As I also informed you guys here it will be for a few days or a maximum of a few weeks. And a very limited number of addons. It could be simply ignored, as 99% of the users do. But there are always at least 1% who just simply ALWAYS rant, like you do! If it's not the particular addon or lib you rant about libs in general and accus others of miss-behaviour in communication or whatever ![]() And then you get personal and rant on me, just like you did again after you have said sorry with your last post ![]()
The only person here saying this was rude or whatever is you! Others just came her and asked why the message shows, what they need to do, and they helped. But you just seem to be offended by every simple text and message which you do not understand ![]() You seem to have had some real problems with programmers in the past and now start to bring this personal fight to your free gaming time as well ![]() If you want to do it better go ahead and do it please. Provide me a simple way to reach all involved users and devs and inform them easily, without much effort, without being annoying, "rude nor arrogant nor outrageous", for each possible use-case that could happen with addon and lib development ![]() But you'll find out, like me/others did since 2014: There is no "one solution". There are always ppl complaining. And we cannot make it easy for all. Either you get annoyed yourself and stop the support or you do the best and the others need to accept it, or loose the addons/libs in total. And again you won't trust me here, I bet. But the good thing (for me) is: I don't care ![]() I do not force anyone to use my addons or libs. Nor do other devs. And yes I often explain this to those who use my addons (not software). Simply deactivate if you get annoyed and come back later, or strip them and use others. btw: It was never shown in the zone chat! It's only showing in the debug channel (system message). If you see this in zone chat it maybe any other addon changing it for you. You could even disable the system chat channel (if you got the addon pChat enabled e.g.) or install other addons like DebugLogViewer to change the output of these messages to another UI, not showing in normal chat anymore. Finally, as I wrote before: This won't be any discussion here. Further comments about this will be deleted now as I want to keep the comments clean for the important, lib related texts and questions.
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