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Guild Sales Assistant for Master Merchant  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: 3.9.1
by: dopiate, hawkeye1889
Guild Sales Assistant 3.9.1



Have you tried Guild Sales Master? It's the perfect companion to GSA!

"Using Master Merchant like you should be? Awesome, how about an offline analysis tool! No login necessary. Great way of keeping track of what you're selling in guild stores and helping you then go and craft more."

Quoted From TESO: Essential Addons version2

"Want to go Nerd in Nirn? – then get Guild Sales Assistant for Master Merchant and build an offline database with a great analytic tool set so you can really track what you are selling in your guild stores."

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And tonight have just added one called 'Guild Sales Assistant' which is a really REALLY good way of keeping track of what you're selling in guild stores and helping you then go and craft more.*

Master Merchant + Guild Sales Assistant are great add-ons.*

100% agree!*

Recommended Addons!*

If you do not use a banking/store app - i would recommend adding one. I personally use Master Merchant which also integrates with Guild Sales Assistant for offline storage of your merchant data.*

What are the best addons to use?*










You MUST have GSA and MM both enabled if you wish to get any new sales offline.

GSA no longer has an in game GUI.

The default GUI has been changed to Master Merchant

To get the offline component working.

1 - make sure you have the latest GSA and MM installed
2 - run the game so GSA and MM can gather your sales
3 - Play for a minute or two and then you can log out (or just keep playing)
4 - then ONLY after you have logged out the FIRST TIME - follow the steps in this video (yes the number of files in the zip has changed.



Thanks to the hard work of Philgo68 we were able to make it possible to run GSA and Master Merchant together.

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If you have trouble with the video the steps are...
  1. Browse to your AddOns folder (open up GuildSalesAssistant folder)
  2. Run the Guild Sales Assistant program
  3. Follow the directions :-)
I do realize this isn't much information but it really is that easy


Reminder: You must have .Net installed if you plan to use the offline tool. If you aren't sure if you have it you can get the latest here - it will not hurt anything to install it or upgrade to the latest one. I am letting everyone know now so there are no bug reports because you didn't get .Net Framework installed!
3.9.1 - fixed a bug introduced in a previous version and API bump

3.9 - minor fixes, tried future proofing a bit more - this is the LAST version. Unless there is a program ending bug, this is it!



3.8.7 murk - API bump for Murk patch
3.8.7a2 - API bump (just updating it to be courteous) reuploaded to fix folder name mistake
3.8.7a - API bump (just updating it to be courteous)
3.8.7 - API bump (just updating it to be courteous)
3.8.6 - No functional changes / just cosmetic typos and misaligned sections (optional update - not a necessary one)
3.8.5 - corrected a minor bug with furniture and linked my bands full catalog from the options menu (all of it's free)
3.8.4 - API bump
3.8.3 - fixed a text bug that was bothering me

3.8.1a - just an API bump
3.8.1 -- tweaks, minor fixes
3.8 -- in one of my previous updates I removed the left and right navigation bars (they have been put back)
-- this version has a more modern look now (I could use a new logo if anyone has the skills)


3.7.6 - Fixed an issue handing some new items
3.7.5 - Removed LUA Memory feature no longer supported by the new client
3.7.4 - API bump + minor code changes
3.7.2 - API bump
3.7.1a - API bump
3.7.1 - fixed issue with item sorting by date being applied to time-frame summaries
3.7.1 - fixed issue with days being skipped when browsing using the < and > buttons

3.7 -- tightened up some core routines (mainly just optimizing)
3.6 -- just an API bump
3.5 -- I have added a section to the options screen to keep data for:

*Forever
*90 days
*60 days
*30 days

This was added as option so your database doesn't get too big with sales that are no longer relevant.


Old Stuff:

New Look! Large sections of code re-written!
  1. Future Patch Protection
  2. Duplicate Proof
  3. Faster (in all aspects)
  4. Database Maintenance & Health Checks on Start Up

reminder: don't forget about the options menu!





version 2.2.2 (1) - No functional changes just made my manifest file Fast API compatible.
version 2.2.3 - "protection mode" - I'm getting bad data from MM and I am trying to protect your DB so this release will only let you view your history until Phil and I can get things worked out.
version 2.2.4 - updated to work with the new patch - some history will be missing but should be picked up in the next version.
version 2.5.0 - transitioning to new format while supporting the old still. Nothing function has changed, it's all under the hood. Preparing for the future.



old change log info......

11/15/2014 - Initial release Version: v.08 (just the LUA engine for users to start collecting data).
------------- Version will be in sync at release, both programs will be 1.0
11/17/2014 - Cleaned up UI issues I didn't notice plus I added back in the key bind option
------------- I wasn't planning on any updates till 1.0 but I didn't realize the key bind was gone
11/24/2014 - Full version of GSA 1.0 the entire suite is released
------------- Please read the directions, watch the video and enjoy the offline tool
11/26/2014 - Added some items to the offline component that should have been in v 1.0
------------- Changed Average Price (in item selection) to Average Price Per Unit
------------- In the Options added the ability to factor in the 8% Guild Sales Tax to all your totals
------------- Added the ability to "uninstall" GSA so it goes through the 'first run' routine again (if needed)
12/01/2014 - Added in the two most requested features
------------- You can now filter by guild - it will show only results for the guild selected
------------- You can now get sales for a date range and not a single date
12/01/2014 - Bug fix and feature
------------- fixed issue where data range selection can go haywire
------------- added feature to backup your database
12/07/2014 - Utility release
------------- added a stand-alone tool to reset GSA (along with source)
12/11/2014 - Offline component optimized and given a "face lift"
------------- as stated in the forums this is a totally optional update.
12/17/2014 - Two new features added both make the program easier to use
------------- 1) on any "report screen" - daily, calendar chosen, etc - you can now double click the line
------------ item and it will take you directly to the detailed history for that product.
------------- 2) on the options screen you can now choose to ALWAYS have results sorted by
------------- date with newest sales listed first (no more double clicking the column header!
12/17/2014 - sorting code had opposite effect in sales reports - I have fixed it :-)
12/26/2014 - Report exporting to csv added
------------- Will use whatever program csv is associated to in Windows.
------------- Due to reports being hard to see I have reverted back to a simpler look
12/29/2014 - Report exporting to csv had a bug in the title it auto selected if you went from range to single date
------------- fixed the grid lines issue

I have multiple machines and this is how my grid (listview) lines look on different ones! (btw never use listview - GRIDVIEW only for those future .NET programmers).

example 1 (home pc)


example 2 (work pc)


It's nuts - well I figured out a solution - on the options page is a button you can toggle Gray or White

so at work I toggle Gray



and I get this now?!?!



I don't know whats up with .NET and the XP Visuals or No XP visuals or whatever but I'm sorry if you have not grid lines for a long time. I actually didn't know.

ok that is what's fixed in 1.5b - along with the report title issue.

(ps there is no difference betweeen 1.5a and 1.5b only, that it was slow enough for me to run our enterprise code analyzer on my app and make some optimization changes. Plus, fix some of my old VB6 style coding to better, more efficient syntax.)

01/15/2015 --All columns are now sortable, this now includes all monetary columns.
01/31/2015 --Updated backup option for archive data
------------- --Minor bug fixes on export csv names (there was a bug)
02/03/2015 --Fix a very hard to find bug that added new sales twice when you hit "reload data"
-------------- --Added arrows to the single day view so you can use buttons to browse easier
-------------- --very simple < previous day, > next day icons
02/05/2015 --added check for Patch 6 - this version should not be run with Patch 6
------------- --This version will protect you from harming your database
------------- --I have the Patch 6 version ready to go but I can not release until the patch
02/19/2015 -- the online component has been retired
------------- --Master Merchant is the new GUI / Data Collector for GSA
04/17/2015 -- Fixed a long standing issue with not all guilds being listed for sorting
------------- -- Added option to skip the ESO intro videos
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Unread 11/25/14, 09:22 AM  
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HELP!

I have been with this add-on as the 16th user to download, and have had no trouble till now.

If I have the add-on activated, when I trying to access "Guild Store" it immediately boots me from the game. When it is NOT, no problem.

Also, I have no UI issues what so ever.

Please help\advise

TY
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Re: Virus Scan

Originally Posted by BigMons
File is clean in my opinion. 54/55 antivirus engines at virustotal.com didn't detect anything malicious. Only an engine from Qihoo 360 detected something. I hadn't previously even heard of Qihoo 360, so I'm not personally concerned at all that it supposedly detected something.

Regardless, everyone is free to use their own discretion, but I know that I'm not concerned for myself. I just wanted to post obligatory virus scan results. I didn't see any mention of this in the comments or anywhere for that matter, and when I submitted the file for scan it didn't appear that anyone else had done so before me.

Results:
Virus Total: 1/55
OPSWAT Metascan: 0/43
Jotti: 0/22
This was very uncool.

It does exactly what I said it does, it collects and creates a database with a GUI. I even renamed the .vbs to .vbs.remove so you can't accidentally click on it.

If you were worried - then you shouldn't even download my program. You don't need it to play the game.

Now you cast doubt about my personal character, honesty and integrity just by dong this.

I don't appreciate you posting this here at all.

Did you not know that ESOUI checks and approves all files?

Did you decide that it was your place to cast doubt on my hard work, done for free, to add more value to ESO?

I have a request for you.

I would like you to take a drug test.

I don't know you and now because I asked you for a drug test everyone will associate you and drugs. You could be 100% clean. I have no idea. But, I need to know for sure you don't take drugs because I decided it was my place to do so. I appointed myself the forum "drug" enforcement officer.

Do you get my point?

-d
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Thumbs up Virus Scan

File is clean in my opinion. 54/55 antivirus engines at virustotal.com didn't detect anything malicious. Only an engine from Qihoo 360 detected something. I hadn't previously even heard of Qihoo 360, so I'm not personally concerned at all that it supposedly detected something.

Regardless, everyone is free to use their own discretion, but I know that I'm not concerned for myself. I just wanted to post obligatory virus scan results. I didn't see any mention of this in the comments or anywhere for that matter, and when I submitted the file for scan it didn't appear that anyone else had done so before me.

Results:
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OPSWAT Metascan: 0/43
Jotti: 0/22
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Unread 11/24/14, 08:28 PM  
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The Full Guild Sales Assistant Suite is Now Live!

Finally the offline tool is live.

Please read all details are on the front page.

Keep in mind, there is no other addon like this at all so, you have to view it a little differently.

I have managed to make the online game affect an offline tool and even figure out a way to allow you to update sales without having to log off.

Meaning you could make a sale - use the "Save Sales" button and then "Reload Data" and that sale instantly goes into your offline database.

This is not the end of development, just the first public release I am comfortable with.

I have some really great beta testers who had awesome opinions and terrific suggestions and they really helped shape this first public version.

I have to single out Cutholen and QuadroTony. Two great guys without who's suggestions and testing I would never have completed this. All my other testers you were great too, I am not taking away from your contributions but Cutholen and QuadroTony went above and beyond!

In an earlier post someone asked about donations. I still feel this same way about them (for me) but if you are moved to do so you should check the donations link.

I know of no current bugs but if you get into trouble, I'm here, just PM, email or post.

I will fix all issues.

-d
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Unread 11/23/14, 11:36 AM  
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Instruction Video Created

Ok ... we're getting close now.

Instruction Video On How To Setup The Offline Component and Shortcut (HD)

(also gives you a small preview of how the offline tool functions, in case you are curious)

I was able to embed video in PM but not on the main page - no idea why

-d

BIG Thanks to timidobserver for sending me the link to Open Broadcaster Software! Great stuff!
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Originally Posted by dopiate
Originally Posted by timidobserver
I am sorry if I was unclear, but I do think you misunderstood me. I don't want you to change the scope of what you are doing at all. I was only asking about options that could be included to give users more control over which portions of the addon they want to use.

Many of the better built addons out there are all very segmented so that you can disable portions of them while keeping what you like. For example, I hate FTC's scrolling text but I love everything else about it. That doesn't mean that Atropos needs to change his scrolling text. What one person thinks is irrelevant and doesn't justify a major change to a major feature of an addon. Instead I simply have the option to disable the the FTC scrolling text and use Combat Cloud instead for that functionality.
Ok yes I did misunderstand the core point of your question - it happens - no worries

Originally Posted by timidobserver
As far as what other conflicting addons offer that yours does not, I do like the tool tip functionality that was added to Shopkeeper in the final update. I also like being able to see all sales as opposed to just my sales(I make great use of this data to make gold.) I find GREAT value in seeing data about what other people in my guilds are selling and having it on demand on a tooltip, but it is completely fine that you see no value in those things, and I do not intend to convince you of their value. I think your plans for your addon are fine as they are and you should leave that out of your addon if you don't want it there. I only want the option, if it wouldn't be too much trouble to add it, to use your addon at the same time as other Shopkeeper versions that include the information you see no value in.
I will say now that I understand much more clearly, I don't hate the idea. I will add it to my list of "possible features" -- like I said I will listen to any idea and take seriously any and all suggestions.

This is possible and depending on how well the release goes, it might not be a far off possibility.

With the help of some great beta testers I am ahead of schedule, I got 99% of the bugs fixed and even re-wrote the initial install process that creates your database so it's basically two clicks - which is way down from the 1 page document it used to be! So I'm actually not just bug fixing but improving it.

I'm getting great feedback and suggestions from my beta testers that have really helped shape this into a much better program.

Originally Posted by timidobserver
Short version: You should totally leave your plans for you addon exactly how you want it with the features you want in it. The option to have it store ALL guild sales in the offline repository instead of just mine would be very nice, but you should totally leave that out if you don't want it in. I am only asking about the feasibility of optional compatibility with other versions of Shopkeeper.
Everyone - including myself wants "The option to have it store ALL guild sales in the offline repository" -- but if you read futher down in the comments I explain why I didn't do it -- it's not impossible but to support and code it would take more time than I have.

So, I'm leaving you with a maybe. I can't say "yes" because I have to see how things unfold but I might be able to make that work. Heck, it made it on to my "possible features" list so that certainly not a no.

-d
Thanks for the quick responses. I'll be following your project closely as you move forward. I am a huge fan of all guild store/sales related addons.

I can see where you addon has the potential to help me make a ton of gold in the future.
EDIT: This is an excellent recorder if you have are using a supported Geforce GPU. http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience/shadowplay

This is good if you don't use a Geforce card. https://obsproject.com/
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NEWS: Be Prepared...

NEWS: I am ahead of schedule so if you are planning on using the offline tool when it's released please make sure you have .Net installed (3.5.1 or higher) - you can get the latest here - it will not hurt anything to install it or upgrade to the latest one. I am letting everyone know now so there are no bug reports because you didn't .Net Framework installed!

-d

ps anyone know of a good - free video capture tool? I wanted to create a YouTube video for the install process - It's SO easy now but still a video couldn't hurt.
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Originally Posted by timidobserver
I am sorry if I was unclear, but I do think you misunderstood me. I don't want you to change the scope of what you are doing at all. I was only asking about options that could be included to give users more control over which portions of the addon they want to use.

Many of the better built addons out there are all very segmented so that you can disable portions of them while keeping what you like. For example, I hate FTC's scrolling text but I love everything else about it. That doesn't mean that Atropos needs to change his scrolling text. What one person thinks is irrelevant and doesn't justify a major change to a major feature of an addon. Instead I simply have the option to disable the the FTC scrolling text and use Combat Cloud instead for that functionality.
Ok yes I did misunderstand the core point of your question - it happens - no worries

Originally Posted by timidobserver
As far as what other conflicting addons offer that yours does not, I do like the tool tip functionality that was added to Shopkeeper in the final update. I also like being able to see all sales as opposed to just my sales(I make great use of this data to make gold.) I find GREAT value in seeing data about what other people in my guilds are selling and having it on demand on a tooltip, but it is completely fine that you see no value in those things, and I do not intend to convince you of their value. I think your plans for your addon are fine as they are and you should leave that out of your addon if you don't want it there. I only want the option, if it wouldn't be too much trouble to add it, to use your addon at the same time as other Shopkeeper versions that include the information you see no value in.
I will say now that I understand much more clearly, I don't hate the idea. I will add it to my list of "possible features" -- like I said I will listen to any idea and take seriously any and all suggestions.

This is possible and depending on how well the release goes, it might not be a far off possibility.

With the help of some great beta testers I am ahead of schedule, I got 99% of the bugs fixed and even re-wrote the initial install process that creates your database so it's basically two clicks - which is way down from the 1 page document it used to be! So I'm actually not just bug fixing but improving it.

I'm getting great feedback and suggestions from my beta testers that have really helped shape this into a much better program.

Originally Posted by timidobserver
Short version: You should totally leave your plans for you addon exactly how you want it with the features you want in it. The option to have it store ALL guild sales in the offline repository instead of just mine would be very nice, but you should totally leave that out if you don't want it in. I am only asking about the feasibility of optional compatibility with other versions of Shopkeeper.
Everyone - including myself wants "The option to have it store ALL guild sales in the offline repository" -- but if you read futher down in the comments I explain why I didn't do it -- it's not impossible but to support and code it would take more time than I have.

So, I'm leaving you with a maybe. I can't say "yes" because I have to see how things unfold but I might be able to make that work. Heck, it made it on to my "possible features" list so that certainly not a no.

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Originally Posted by dopiate
Originally Posted by timidobserver
Do you have any plans to alter your Modified Shopkeeper so that it can have an option to function along side with other versions. I find your offline tool to be very appealing, but also like to be able to use the latest release of Shopkeeper for my in-game needs.

Ideally, a solution that allows me to run both simultaneously would be preferred. Possibly, you could come up with a stripped down version of your Shopkeeper that does nothing more than silently feed data into the offline tool.

Alternatively, would turning on your shopkeeper for long enough for it to push data to your offline tool once or twice a day, and then turning it off and turning on the other shopkeeper be a viable/supported solution?
Well, first what do the other "Shopkeeper" versions offer you that mine doesn't? (I hate saying it's Shopkeeper because this is NOT a Shopkeeper direct replacement - its been altered a lot)

But to answer your question mine would work fine with any other 'Shopkeeper' version/continuation if I removed the GUI parts. Only the GUI conflicts would be an issues.

Having said that I have no intentions or desire to do that. I'll listen to any suggestion and feature requests but honestly I'm probably not going to change the scope of this project at all. It's going to get more complex and interesting the longer I work on it.

The offline component also runs outside of ESO and so you can have it on a second screen and my in game LUA footprint is LOW. But, yet I can handle 100x the data of any other addon using the offline tool.

The original plans for this addon was to just have sales alerts, no GUI and everything else offline. Then I saw everyone struggling with others 'fixed' versions and I felt guilty that I had mine fixed and up and running in a day. So eventually my conscience got to me and I left 90% of the GUI in and posted this "part 1" for those struggling with the errors in the other version. Plus I actually visit these boards and fix errors, pretty quickly. Nobody waits a week to hear back from me. I support what I write.

The only trade off I see is you don't get to see other sales going on. I never saw the value in that. What does what just sold tell you? I use GSSEx to tell me whats currently up for sale. I know what I've been selling, I have a database to look at. What would I care if someone sold some sold Grain Solvent if I had none to sell? The logic is flawed. Plus the tool tips were wrong (other addons do it better) and the calculator annoyed me to death.

That just my honest feelings based off your questions. I am in no way putting down Shopkeeper or anyone else's version of it. I think it is a great addon (parts of it EXTREMELY well coded - way beyond my LUA skill level) no matter what version you use and I thank anyone who put time into making an addon. Remember we all do this for free and lose game time working on it. Right now I would rather be in a delve then typing a reply. This is the reason I came so close to never releasing it and just giving it to friends.

Personally I think my changes and offline database give you a better selling edge than any other addon. Sure I could give you a tool tip that suggests you sell in such and such guild for 5% less based on a very simple formula. But, why? You didn't know to price lower? Who doesn't know that?

In all honesty once you start using the offline tool the in game GUI hardly matters except for the sales alerts (I LOVE those). I can see if a guild that I sell something to every day is out - I can check my usual price, maybe try to jack it up. I have months of data sorted many different ways that you can use to gain an edge.

Well anyway - I hope that answers your questions.

I'm not really into this to be a "big shot developer" and I don't care what people think about my work and choices. I wrote this for me. If you like it, great. If you don't, there are many other options.

Sometimes in an email or post you can read the wrong emotion into it. You shouldn't with this reply. I'm just being honest. I'm not trying to be boastful or condescending or aggressive. I'm just replying with the honest truth and I am very happy to answer your questions and anyone else who may have any.

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I am sorry if I was unclear, but I do think you misunderstood me. I don't want you to change the scope of what you are doing at all. I was only asking about options that could be included to give users more control over which portions of the addon they want to use.

Many of the better built addons out there are all very segmented so that you can disable portions of them while keeping what you like. For example, I hate FTC's scrolling text but I love everything else about it. That doesn't mean that Atropos needs to change his scrolling text. What one person thinks is irrelevant and doesn't justify a major change to a major feature of an addon. Instead I simply have the option to disable the the FTC scrolling text and use Combat Cloud instead for that functionality.

As far as what other conflicting addons offer that yours does not, I do like the tool tip functionality that was added to Shopkeeper in the final update. I also like being able to see all sales as opposed to just my sales(I make great use of this data to make gold.) I find GREAT value in seeing data about what other people in my guilds are selling and having it on demand on a tooltip, but it is completely fine that you see no value in those things, and I do not intend to convince you of their value. I think your plans for your addon are fine as they are and you should leave that out of your addon if you don't want it there. I only want the option, if it wouldn't be too much trouble to add it, to use your addon at the same time as other Shopkeeper versions that include the information you see no value in.

Short version: You should totally leave your plans for you addon exactly how you want it with the features you want in it. The option to have it store ALL guild sales in the offline repository instead of just mine would be very nice, but you should totally leave that out if you don't want it in. I am only asking about the feasibility of optional compatibility with other versions of Shopkeeper.
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Re: Chat Box?

Originally Posted by Petta_Dragonne
Thank you so much for this addon! I just became treasurer in our guild and will be selling stuff for both myself in my own gameplay and for the guild separately, so I really needed an addon that allowed me to track both. All of the other addons (shopkeeper in several forms, datadaedra, and pricetracker) kept doing really weird things to my computer (e.g., posting UI error messages all over my screen or not working at all or sending lots of yellow messages through my chat box regularly). I'm excited for the offline version especially, as that's something I had already asked a different guild months ago where to find something like that. And so now something like that is coming. I'm very excited! Thank you for doing this.
I'm glad my version doesn't cause you issues - that's precisely why I released it.

I fixed the bugs, removed the conflicts and streamlined the program.

I did it 99% because it needed to be done to make the offline component work correctly but, it's also an alternative until those other addons get their issues/bug fixed.

The offline tool is getting cooler by the day - once released I think you'll be quite pleased.

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Originally Posted by Petta_Dragonne
I have one question. Is there some way that I can change a setting so that I don't get a long list of items in the chat box, but only get it either on the online screen in that big black box or offline? I just tried this addon for the first time, frequently check to see if there is email from the guild I'm treasurer of, and then I had to search to find the top of the list... Anyway, it would be great if I could prevent it from going there. Thank you for your time and for your help.
Do you mean you dont want these alerts?



that is the offline sales report - it's a report of the sales you had when offline.

You can turn those off and the ones the show up in the middle of your screen if you want.

In the Sales Alert Options turn off everything and you won't get any alerts.

If thats what you were asking.

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Chat Box?

Thank you so much for this addon! I just became treasurer in our guild and will be selling stuff for both myself in my own gameplay and for the guild separately, so I really needed an addon that allowed me to track both. All of the other addons (shopkeeper in several forms, datadaedra, and pricetracker) kept doing really weird things to my computer (e.g., posting UI error messages all over my screen or not working at all or sending lots of yellow messages through my chat box regularly). I'm excited for the offline version especially, as that's something I had already asked a different guild months ago where to find something like that. And so now something like that is coming. I'm very excited! Thank you for doing this.

I have one question. Is there some way that I can change a setting so that I don't get a long list of items in the chat box, but only get it either on the online screen in that big black box or offline? I just tried this addon for the first time, frequently check to see if there is email from the guild I'm treasurer of, and then I had to search to find the top of the list... Anyway, it would be great if I could prevent it from going there. Thank you for your time and for your help.
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Do you have any plans to alter your Modified Shopkeeper so that it can have an option to function along side with other versions. I find your offline tool to be very appealing, but also like to be able to use the latest release of Shopkeeper for my in-game needs.

Ideally, a solution that allows me to run both simultaneously would be preferred. Possibly, you could come up with a stripped down version of your Shopkeeper that does nothing more than silently feed data into the offline tool.

Alternatively, would turning on your shopkeeper for long enough for it to push data to your offline tool once or twice a day, and then turning it off and turning on the other shopkeeper be a viable/supported solution?
Well, first what do the other "Shopkeeper" versions offer you that mine doesn't? (I hate saying it's Shopkeeper because this is NOT a Shopkeeper direct replacement - its been altered a lot)

But to answer your question mine would work fine with any other 'Shopkeeper' version/continuation if I removed the GUI parts. Only the GUI conflicts would be an issues.

Having said that I have no intentions or desire to do that. I'll listen to any suggestion and feature requests but honestly I'm probably not going to change the scope of this project at all. It's going to get more complex and interesting the longer I work on it.

The offline component also runs outside of ESO and so you can have it on a second screen and my in game LUA footprint is LOW. But, yet I can handle 100x the data of any other addon using the offline tool.

The original plans for this addon was to just have sales alerts, no GUI and everything else offline. Then I saw everyone struggling with others 'fixed' versions and I felt guilty that I had mine fixed and up and running in a day. So eventually my conscience got to me and I left 90% of the GUI in and posted this "part 1" for those struggling with the errors in the other version. Plus I actually visit these boards and fix errors, pretty quickly. Nobody waits a week to hear back from me. I support what I write.

The only trade off I see is you don't get to see other sales going on. I never saw the value in that. What does what just sold tell you? I use GSSEx to tell me whats currently up for sale. I know what I've been selling, I have a database to look at. What would I care if someone sold some sold Grain Solvent if I had none to sell? The logic is flawed. Plus the tool tips were wrong (other addons do it better) and the calculator annoyed me to death.

That just my honest feelings based off your questions. I am in no way putting down Shopkeeper or anyone else's version of it. I think it is a great addon (parts of it EXTREMELY well coded - way beyond my LUA skill level) no matter what version you use and I thank anyone who put time into making an addon. Remember we all do this for free and lose game time working on it. Right now I would rather be in a delve then typing a reply. This is the reason I came so close to never releasing it and just giving it to friends.

Personally I think my changes and offline database give you a better selling edge than any other addon. Sure I could give you a tool tip that suggests you sell in such and such guild for 5% less based on a very simple formula. But, why? You didn't know to price lower? Who doesn't know that?

In all honesty once you start using the offline tool the in game GUI hardly matters except for the sales alerts (I LOVE those). I can see if a guild that I sell something to every day is out - I can check my usual price, maybe try to jack it up. I have months of data sorted many different ways that you can use to gain an edge.

Well anyway - I hope that answers your questions.

I'm not really into this to be a "big shot developer" and I don't care what people think about my work and choices. I wrote this for me. If you like it, great. If you don't, there are many other options.

Sometimes in an email or post you can read the wrong emotion into it. You shouldn't with this reply. I'm just being honest. I'm not trying to be boastful or condescending or aggressive. I'm just replying with the honest truth and I am very happy to answer your questions and anyone else who may have any.

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Do you have any plans to alter your Modified Shopkeeper so that it can have an option to function along side with other versions. I find your offline tool to be very appealing, but also like to be able to use the latest release of Shopkeeper for my in-game needs.

Ideally, a solution that allows me to run both simultaneously would be preferred. Possibly, you could come up with a stripped down version of your Shopkeeper that does nothing more than silently feed data into the offline tool.

Alternatively, would turning on your shopkeeper for long enough for it to push data to your offline tool once or twice a day, and then turning it off and turning on the other shopkeeper be a viable/supported solution?
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