Fully agree here! I wasn't asking to "always" add it, but check the addons purpose and possibilities and decide from the start if this will help.

Not all addons need that, but a lot of addons use UI stuff and settings that are dependent on e.g. your skills, your CPs, even your class but which use account wide settings (or provide both, char and account wide and ppl just dislike to configure each char again and thus use account wide).
Having no way to distinguish them on the same account at 2 different servers will get you into stuff processed where not needed (skills not unlocked or not even possible; UI elemnts showing for nor use).

But most addons do not need that separation.
I guess the tracker here should maybe just use characterId settings then.

I have changed the Wiki entries about SV, and the tutorial entries, and added the info about "GetWorldName() only MAYBE needed for account wide settings" meanwhile.
Thanks for the clarification with the characterIds.

I have 85 characters across NA and EU spread over 10 different @accounts, with the oldest character being from launch and the newest being less than a month old. And without exception, every single NA character ID starts with 87960930, and every single EU character ID starts with 87982920. Since the first part of the ID seems to be a fixed value per server rather than random, I believe it is safe to assume that cross-server character ID collisions are "impossible", rather than just "highly unlikely".

(Characters created on PTS--not copied from live--start with 66168610 for their IDs.)

For PTS, since I'm often testing new trials or dungeons using Live character copies, having settings that carry over from Live is important and I'm often having to manually fix SV. For me, that's not a problem and it's a minor nuisance. But for other people in the group who are not so familiar with where things are or how things work, it's tedious to walk them through that process. In many of these cases, the settings were already character-specific, so the server segregation was unnecessary.

Regardless of whether or not PTS should be considered an edge case, I still think that server segregation should be on an "as needed" basis rather than the default stance to take.

That was new to me. Last time I asked Dan he said the ids might be the same on the 2 servers, but good to know.
That will make server dependent SV for characterIds definately not needed, thanks!


I agree "partially" here.

Many addons do not split up per server, that's correct.

But as I said before: There are addons where positions at the UI and handling of addons will need the possibility to make it save differently. If this is about characters now, as discussed above already, the server is not needed.
But there also exist many account dependent addons which got such features and if you create such new I'd tend to add different server support from the beginning then.

PTS is a special case for developers and not valid for the mass imho! PTS SV can be easily changed in the SV with a search & replace. Notepad++ e.g. Or you keep your PTS SV for 90% and only copy over the ones to test.
Yes, it's not always doen quickly but PTS really is for developing and shouldn't block feaures in addons to be handled differently on NA and EU!



Another idea would be, for those addons where account server split would be needed/wanted, to use LibSavedVars from silvereyes.
I think it got some features to copy the SV between servers already build in?

ZOs clarified it here:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.co...omment_7898166

EU and NA character IDs are guaranteed to be different and there will never be a collision, since the IDs have different prefixes on the two servers.

I disagree. Addons really should not go overboard with saving the server in the SV unless it's actually necessary. If you're doing character-specific settings, and you're saving by character ID rather than character name, then there is absolutely no need to specify the server (or even @account).

Addons that unnecessarily specify the server cause problems when testing on PTS. Copy SV from live to PTS, log onto the copied Live character on PTS, and hey, why are my settings not there even though I copied the SV? Oh, it's because SV checks the server too, so now I need to go manually edit the SV and replace "XYZ Megaserver" with "PTS".

(There are of course cases where server segregation does make sense, but IMHO, that should be the exception, not the default.)

(And if you're not doing character-specific, I still don't think the server should be specified. If I want generic settings across all my characters, I'm not going to care which server they're on. My NA arcanist isn't different because it's on NA--it's different because it's a different character.)

Change this line here:
To:

btw: You did not add support for multiple servers @Exoy The same account can be active on NA, EU and PTS and the settings will most probably differe there for your Arcanist builds, so character settings with the ID should be safe without the server as the charId is unique per server (but still could be the same on EU and NA for totally different chars but same account -> most probably will not happen though, would be a big coincidence).

So adding GetWorldName() as profile (3rd param, where you use "nil" currently) to the SV call would be nice for each new addon, where settings "can" differ per account/char by the server!



Edit - Bug report:
Changing the settings of this addon to "Hide out of combat" won't hide the UI after closing the settings panel.
Guess ti will fix itsself the next time I get in and out of combat then.

Hi, could you add a settings option for each character separately? For example @ DD I really like the overcast crux sound, but @ tank I don't want it and I have to enable/disable it manually
Thanks.

That sounds unintentionally to me... I'll ask Dan

Thank you, the out of combat setting is welcome too!
About the timer:
Does crux really run out after 30s now? I thought this is only a visual unstressing to removing the effects after 30s out of combat? (actually never tested that, I'm fighting too often so never was 30s out of combat with crux left^^).

Would really love a hide out of combat option

Ah, I see. Thanks, makes sense

Edit:
Another nice feature/setting ON/OFF would be to hide the UI while out of combat (the green flying crux icons around the char are enough then...)

And a hint:
For the sound selection there exists an easy LibAddonMenu plugin.
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info3346-LibAddonMenu-SoundSliderwidget.html

This way one could select from all sounds and not only the few you pre-selected there, which imo are not matching the Arcanist