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w33zl's Merchant
Version: 0.9.7
by: w33zl [More]
Important: Requires ESO Safe to keep prices up-to-date. For troubleshooting tips check out help section of ESO Safe and ESO Safe Troubleshooter.

w33zl's Merchant is a must have for the serious trader in Tamriel!

Have you ever asked yourself any of the following questions?
"What is the right price to pay for that item?”
"How much could you get when selling this item?”

w33zl's Merchant offers the most accurate and up-to-date prices in Tamriel available at your fingertips using a lightning fast search. A unique way of analyzing transactions and a shrewd optimization now gives us unlimited sales history!

And there is even more exciting features planned for upcoming releases…
Stay tuned and sign up for the beta to be sure not to miss any new cool features.

Read more About the add-on below. What if you do not care about the details and just want to go ahead and make some more gold? Sure! Just make sure ju have read the Requirements and Installation section first.

What's new
  • Now with Player Sales (requires ESO Safe v1.3)
  • Sample db with 7,500 items and 25,000 transactions

Details about the add-on

This add-on works in a similar way as Shopkeeper, DataDaedra and Luminary Trade Sales History. With one key difference - w33zl's Merchant uses an optimized calculation and data format which significantly reduces the amount of LUA memory needed. Or in plain English: this means you can greatly increase the sales history without introducing lag.

And that's not all. There is one even more exciting feature around the corner, soon available for beta-testing for a select few.

Feature spotlight
Gives you the most accurate and up-to-date prices in Tamriel right at your fingertips.

Main features
  • Displays actual prices for all items passing your guild stores
  • Uses a special algorithm to calculate accurate average prices
    • Price is based on the latest most current sales, but also takes into account all historic sales, to get a more balanced and accurate average price.

  • Keeps unlimited history of all sales in all guilds. Even when you quit or change a guild the sales history will be merged with that of your current guild(s).
  • Also serves as a item database as all types of items would be stored in the item database
  • And one even more exciting and game changing not-yet-announced feature in the making, greatly enhances the above functionality

Proposed features
Even tough the current feature list isn't that long, the present functionality adds great value (no phun intended). And thanks to the underlying data model and algorithms there is a solid foundation to build upon. Below you will find some proposed (yet not confirmed) features:
  • "undisclosed feature"
  • Price trends ("does the price currently go up or down for Iron Ore? What items should I focus on?” )
  • Guesstimated prices for item levels currently not recorded (say you have sales on a dagger for lvl 10 and want assistance to set the price for a lvl 15 dagger)
  • Tooltip in Guild Store with weighted average, lowest and highest price on each item
  • Tooltip in Guild Store with weighted average, lowest and highest price for the current stack
  • Enable w33zl's Merchant to gather the sales transactions itself without the dependency on any other add-ons
  • Enable DataDaedra as a possible source of raw sales data

Requirements and Installation (important!)
All these features unfortunately comes with a price. For most people this is no big issue. To be able to perform all these optimizations the utility ESO Safe is required.

As w33zl's Merchant currently relies on the data from either (or both) Shopkeeper and or Luminary Trade Sales History one of these has to be installed. In a upcoming version this requirements will most likely change as the add-on could as well gather all this data by itself (even tough most of you serius traders have at least one of the already installed). Please have a look at the "Set things up properly" section to make sure to get the most out of this add-on.

Basic installation steps
  1. Install wMerchant add-on (either manually or by copying the fies to addons folder or by using Minion)
  2. Install and configure ESO Safe.
  3. Make sure you have either Shopkeeper or Luminary Trade Sales History installed and active

Troubleshooting
Check out the Getting Started and Troubleshooting section for ESO Safe regarding issues related to the ESO Safe utility and/or problems related to data not being updated properly.

Warning about large history
From my experience, keeping a large history for these add-ons introduces unbearable lag, even on my rather powerful computer (16 GB RAM, 8 CPU cores, very fast SSD and a 100/100 Internet connection). The conclusion is that it isn't the computer itself becoming overwhelmed by the data but rather the LUA engine or the game itself that has a hard time processing all that data.


Set things up properly

TamrielTrader relies on the gathered data from Shopkeeper and or Luminary Trade Sales History which means at least one of them must be installed. However as TamrielTrader is by far more efficient when coming to LUA memory and file size it is highly recommended that you reduce the history of both these add-ons as much as you can (see below for details). By reducing the history you free up some CPU time and most importantly you will reduce the memory requirements and LUA table size, something that significantly reduces the risk for lag and overall poor performance.

What is a proper history size?
To give TamrielTrader enough data to work with you should keep the history long enough to gather relevant data before new sales pushes old out from the history. It all depends on how often you are logged in, how many guilds you belong to and how active trades your guild has.

For a active guild one day could easily count towards thousands of transactions. TamrielTrader recalculates prices each time you reload the ui and logout (including swithing character). This means that if you below to one (1) active guild you should probably have a history of about 2000 transactions if you login once each day (and never reload your UI). Adding more guild means more transactions. Loggin in and out (or reloading UI) reduces the need for a large history. Also remember that Shopkeeper and Luminary Trade Sales History most likely stores the exact same transactions and thus data would be duplicated in the LUA (without benefit).

Best performance is achieved if you login at least once a day, keep one sales tracking add-on active (either Shopkeeper or Luminary Trade Sales History).


Liked this add-on? Maybe you will also like my other tools and addons: ESO Safe and GameInfo eXtended.
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w33zl's Merchant (TESO AddOn) - Changelog
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Version 0.9.7
* Refactoring of debug lib to limit the risk of collision with other addons

Version 0.9.6.2
* Hotfix to amend DEBUG variable collision with other add-ons
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Version 0.9.6.1
* Hotfix to amend issues causing error messages

Version 0.9.6
* Now supports Player Sales (requires ESO Safe v1.3)
* Added 'Addons Manager' library for more solid add-on management
* General refactoring

Version 0.9.5
* Hotfix to amend the issue with database being overwritten by Minion on addon update, requires manual adjustment of file location
* Now supports using a sample database as a starting point to jump-start your own sales history

Version 0.9.4x
* Re-upload with a minor fix to correct the stupid limitation in addon names

Version 0.9.4
* Removed sample DB to prevent overwrite when upgrading
* Adjusted to match Update 4

Version 0.9.3b
* Visual tweak to prevent collision with AlphaTools

Version 0.9.2b
* Minor refactoring/cleanup

Version 0.9b
* Initial release
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Unread 09/13/14, 03:54 AM  
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Sounds very promising but it has too much dependencies to run it. Some people won't bother to download other two requirements. You may need to implement them somehow.
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Originally Posted by Kraeius
Sounds very promising but it has too much dependencies to run it. Some people won't bother to download other two requirements. You may need to implement them somehow.
Thanks for the feedback!

I should definitely look into this. However ESO Safe, one way or another, has to be a dependency. Maybe it's worthwhile to bundle them together?
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first thoughts

I guess I am one of the first users...

First of all: Great idea! We cannot have enough trading tools with the crap ZOS is currently shipping.

Do you also plan on doing a tooltip like DataDaedra and PriceTracker have it? I think that tooltip is the best usability.

Your button overlaps with the button placed by AlphaTools. Thought you should know. AlphaTools was there first. So it might make sense to place the button further to the right.

Keep up the good work I am eager to test-drive this baby!
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Re: first thoughts

Originally Posted by spoqster
First of all: Great idea! We cannot have enough trading tools with the crap ZOS is currently shipping.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by spoqster
Do you also plan on doing a tooltip like DataDaedra and PriceTracker have it? I think that tooltip is the best usability.
Absolutely, that is one of many planned features.

Originally Posted by spoqster
Your button overlaps with the button placed by AlphaTools. Thought you should know. AlphaTools was there first. So it might make sense to place the button further to the right.
I will most definitely respect that!
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Refresh

How often does your list refresh? Does it add new items when I open a guild store? Or is it handled differently?
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Re: Refresh

Originally Posted by spoqster
How often does your list refresh? Does it add new items when I open a guild store? Or is it handled differently?
No, this one behaves a little differently compared to the typical guild sales addons.

It is actually ESO Safe that does much of the data analysis on a post-save event (which mainly occur when you log out or /reloadui). So to force a refresh you could reload the ui. However the main point of the addon is not to have absolutely fresh numbers, but rather to be very accurate over time. And of course to allow virtually unlimited history.

Since ESO doesn't allow live data to be fetched this is the best I could do (without blowing every boundary of LUA memory and UI performance )

Hope this clarifies things. And I believe the benefits of this approach will become more apparent in an upcoming release
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Re: first thoughts

Originally Posted by spoqster
Your button overlaps with the button placed by AlphaTools. Thought you should know. AlphaTools was there first. So it might make sense to place the button further to the right.
I made a quick fix yesterday to amend this (v0.9.3b).
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Re: Re: first thoughts

Originally Posted by w33zl
Originally Posted by spoqster
Your button overlaps with the button placed by AlphaTools. Thought you should know. AlphaTools was there first. So it might make sense to place the button further to the right.
I made a quick fix yesterday to amend this (v0.9.3b).
I saw. That was very quick!
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Re: Re: Refresh

Originally Posted by w33zl
Originally Posted by spoqster
How often does your list refresh? Does it add new items when I open a guild store? Or is it handled differently?
No, this one behaves a little differently compared to the typical guild sales addons.

It is actually ESO Safe that does much of the data analysis on a post-save event (which mainly occur when you log out or /reloadui). So to force a refresh you could reload the ui. However the main point of the addon is not to have absolutely fresh numbers, but rather to be very accurate over time. And of course to allow virtually unlimited history.

Since ESO doesn't allow live data to be fetched this is the best I could do (without blowing every boundary of LUA memory and UI performance )

Hope this clarifies things. And I believe the benefits of this approach will become more apparent in an upcoming release
It seems like ESO Safe is not Mac compatible. At least it's not showing in my Minion and since it's .NET based I am assuming so much.

Yet Merchant still works for me. But I noticed the item count is stuck at 16,246, even after reloadui and relogging. So I am guessing this is your release data and Mac users won't get price updates on their own machines?
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Really unfortunate you have to have an application running for this addon, seemed like a promising new Price Checker.
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Re: Re: Re: Refresh

Originally Posted by spoqster
It seems like ESO Safe is not Mac compatible. At least it's not showing in my Minion and since it's .NET based I am assuming so much.
That is (unfortunately) correct. As much as I love Mac for myself, it wasn't realistic for me to build a cross-platform version (due to limited time and lack of experience programming for the Mac OS ). At least not right now. And I personally think the majority of gamers is still on Windows. That being said, as there is the Mono framework for Mac it is not impossible to port ESO Safe to Mac (although there is some known obstacles).

Should enough users be interested in a Mac version, and is willing to assist in the time consuming test process, I would definitively look into this.

Originally Posted by spoqster
Yet Merchant still works for me. But I noticed the item count is stuck at 16,246, even after reloadui and relogging. So I am guessing this is your release data and Mac users won't get price updates on their own machines?
Yes, that is correct. See explanation above. Also, I might find a way around this. Maybe a stripped-down version for the Mac would be possible (and sufficient?).
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Originally Posted by Dragsooth
Really unfortunate you have to have an application running for this addon, seemed like a promising new Price Checker.
Yeah, really agree. I could achieve some of the functionality without the need for the application (this is in the roadmap). However, to get the full feature set I need an external application (due to limitations in the API).
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ESO Safe problem?

Have shopkeeper installed, have Merchant installed, installed ESOSafe - however no backups are being made and the "tweak" selection on right clicking ESOSafe icon is grayed out. Additionally the "W33zl's Merchant" is also grayed out and has a [DISABLED] tag next to it when I right click the ESOsafe icon in the tray.

Your thoughts?

Note: The Merchant add on *seems* to be working in game however the number of items and transactions have not changed still at ~4k items and 16k transactions.
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Re: ESO Safe problem?

Originally Posted by syndicated
Have shopkeeper installed, have Merchant installed, installed ESOSafe - however no backups are being made and the "tweak" selection on right clicking ESOSafe icon is grayed out. Additionally the "W33zl's Merchant" is also grayed out and has a [DISABLED] tag next to it when I right click the ESOsafe icon in the tray.

Your thoughts?

Note: The Merchant add on *seems* to be working in game however the number of items and transactions have not changed still at ~4k items and 16k transactions.
It would guess that ESO Safe cannot find the folder for the Merchant addon.

Which server are you playing on?

Could you please also verify the settings (right click in tray and choose Settings). The documents folder path must match the exact path where addons and savedvariables is located.

It would also help if you could PM me with as much details as possible.

Another thing, did you get a question to specify your username the first time you started ESO Safe when having Merchant installed?
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Re: ESO Safe problem?

Another troubleshooting tip is to locate your settings file for ESO Safe and send it to me for analysis.

You should find follow these instructions:

1. Go to this folder:
C:\Users\{your_user_name}\AppData\Local\Xilent\

It should also work using the shorthand version: %appdata%\..\Local\Xilent\

2. Regardless of which method you chose hopefully you have a folder named "Xilent" open with at least one sub folder (something like ESOSafe.exe_xxxxxxxxxxxx). If there is more than one folder you should probably look for the one last modified.

3. Opening the folder from previous step should present you with one or more folders following this pattern: 1.x.xxxx.xxxxx. Here we want to open the one with highest number (most likely 1.2.xxxx or 1.3.xxxx). Also here it probably is the last modified folder.

4. Zip the user.config file and send it to me
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