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Arkadius' Trade Tools  Updated this week!  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: 2.0.0
by: Arkadius, Aldanga, Verbalinkontinenz
Arkadius' Trade Tools is a modular framework with the goal to provide traders with useful trading tools and information and to help trade guild masters managing their guilds. Each added module will extend the functionality of ATT in some way. Modules come as their own addons and can therefore simply be deactivated via the addons menu if not needed.

Currently there are the following modules:
  • Sales
    • Visual: Tabbed window
    • Functionality: Collects sales from the player's guilds and displays them as a list which can be filtered in various ways. The information gained from these sales is used in multiple ways:
      • Guild rosters are extended by two additional columns, Purchases and Sales, which display the particular volume per guild member and selected time frame
      • Item tooltips are extended by the average price and a graph displaying the price development. The time frame for these calculations (1-30 days) can manually be selected.
      • Item price statistics can be inserted into chat. For non-English clients there is an option to post the statistics in English.
      • When browsing guild stores, listings also display the average price of the given item, so the player can see if it's over or underpriced

      Sales are stored for up to 30 days, depending on per-guild user settings. Most features can be enabled or disabled in the user settings.

  • Purchases
    • Visual: Tabbed window
    • Functionality: Saves purchases the player makes from guild traders and displays them as a list. This module may especially be useful for resellers to remember what they paid for a particular item. Purchases can be saved for up to 30 days.

  • Statistics
    • Visual: Tabbed window
    • Functionality: Allows other modules to send in statistic information which is then displayed as an assembled list. (currently only used by Sales)

  • Exports
    • Visual: Tabbed window
    • Functionality: Allows saving of guild-level sales data for export to CSV.

The community is free to write additional modules. Currently following external modules are known:
  • My Donation:
    • Adds a tabbed window which tracks your own deposits into guildbanks (up to 365 days) and enhances your overview, whether you met a guilds requirement not only on the sales side.

Currently supported languages:
  • English
  • German
  • French
  • Russian

Slash commands:
  • /att
    Toggle the visiblity of the main window

Addtional notes:
  • All data is stored per megaserver

Current Todo List/Feature Requests:
  • Adding craft cost support for more master writ types.
  • More customization for Deal Finder (margin, total sales, etc.)
  • Review of how writs are priced. Currently this is done by type and quality, but certain event writs don't really price well using that model. Traits and style mats can significantly impact craft cost, which can also affect price.
  • Review and rework of the sales window checkboxes as they provide information of limited value since the guild history API changes.
  • Investigate removing outliers from visible sales data. This could severely impact performance negatively, so no promises on this one.

Many thanks to my NA alpha testers, who catch way too many bugs and provide great feedback and feature suggestions:
  • @AislinAb
  • @autocatalyst
  • @paianjenul
  • @rdhdkc
  • @sozo108
  • @Spotlightstar
  • @sueblue
  • @Troub_S
  • @Wolvnn
v2.0.0
  • [NEW] Required dependencies: LibHistoire, LibDebugLogger
  • [NEW] Support for Update 41 via LibHistoire
  • [NEW] "Search for item" option to tooltips. This wasn't supposed to be included in the release, but let's see what happens...
  • [NEW] Unknown bugs. Please report issues found!
  • [UPDATE] Jewelry crafting links for master writs
  • [UPDATE] Sales window status icons (integration with LibHistoire)

The new guild history changes are not compatible with old ATT data. I recommended deleting your ATT saved variables before upgrading to v2.0.0. If you keep old data around, expect weird things to happen, including duplicate sales data!

In the interest of a quick release, v2.0.0 is missing translations for some new string values. Please let me know if you can help with translations!

v1.13.6
  • [FIX] Removed resizeToFitDescendents from Label elements

v1.13.5
  • [FIX] Issue with exports paths

v1.13.4
  • [FIX] Issue with tooltip graph where sales points no longer displayed

v1.13.3
  • [FIX] Compatibility issues with PerfectPixel - Thanks, Baertram!
  • [FIX] Issue where AGS price selector was hard to click
  • [UPDATE] Moved addon and library folders into single parent directory during deployment

v1.13.2
  • [FIX] Issue with sales events where new data could fail to save

v1.13.1
  • [FIX] Incompatibility with AutoCategory causing UI errors when inventory pricing is enabled - Thanks, GuilleW!
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 34 "High Isle"

v1.13.0
  • [NEW] Item count sorting in Statistics tab
  • [NEW] Brazilian Portuguese translations (thanks, Telmatoscopus!)
  • [NEW] Support for companion gear tooltips
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 30 "Blackwood"
  • [UPDATE] Disabled Unit Price sorting toggle in Purchases and Sales tabs
  • [UPDATE] Updated master writ craft cost calculation to use the API for style stones instead of a local lookup table

v1.12.2
  • [FIX] Issue in gamepad mode where searching in a guild trader could cause a UI error (Thanks, Friday_The13_rus!)

v1.12.1
  • [FIX] Rare issue with deal filtering that could cause an index to be nil (Thanks to sirinsidiator for his help!)
  • [UPDATE] Changed some spacing and alignment for AGS deal integration

v1.12.0
  • [NEW] Added option for auto pricing in vanilla trader UI
  • [NEW] Added option for hiding crafting table on tooltips
  • [NEW] Added new CLI options for exports creation (check the Exports README for more info)
  • [NEW] Added checkbox for exporting only member data
  • [FIX] Issue with writs auto pricing being calculated incorrectly
  • [FIX] Added delay to purchases window refresh to help alleviate some purchases not showing up in a timely manner (there are sometimes still issues)
  • [FIX] Trading house margins sometimes not being calculated correctly
  • [FIX] Trading house listing margins sometimes not being calculated correctly
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 29 "Flames of Ambition"
  • [UPDATE] Removed deprecated AGS icons from filter
  • [UPDATE] Data addons are now marked as libraries to reduce noise in the addons list
  • [UPDATE] Chat logging now uses the chat router instead of the d function

v1.11.2
  • [FIX] Added export scripts to bundle

v1.11.1
  • [UPDATE] Removed some test code.

v1.11.0
  • [NEW] Added Exports module. Check the README in the Exports folder for details on converting export data to CSV.
  • [NEW] Added Exports tab for historical exports
  • [NEW] Added script for exporting to CSV
More features are to come, but please share your experiences with (and feature requests for) Exports!

v1.10.0
  • [NEW] Added missing motif styles
  • [UPDATE] Removed dead code for impossible special cases
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 28 "Markarth"

v1.9.2
  • [FIX] Updating AGS filter to be compatible with AGS v1.5 (when released)

v1.9.1
  • [FIX] Errant double initialization for external modules (bad merges are bad, m'kay?)

v1.9.0
  • [NEW] Keybinds for toggling the tooltip graph and extensions
  • [NEW] Optional support for LibGuildRoster

v1.8.0
  • [NEW] Added auto-price button to AGS integration
  • [NEW] Performance improvements for writ voucher calculations
  • [FIX] Inventory prices not always rounding the correct direction
  • [FIX] Some inventory items not showing prices
  • [UPDATE] Long scan (Interval 1) minimum to 60s

v1.7.2
  • [FIX] Load times for sales data have been significantly reduced (by 40%+ for large data sets, based upon my testing)
  • [FIX] Third-party modules can now initialize properly

v1.7.1
  • [FIX] Issue where Cyrillic characters were not rendering within certain UI elements

v1.7.0
  • [FIX] Issue where custom popup tooltip additions from other addons wouldn't close correctly
  • [NEW] Text filters applied to the statistics window will now be restored upon reload or relog

v1.6.3
  • [FIX] Issue where using inventory market values would throw errors when using addons that heavily customize the inventory list. NOTE: Sorting by value may still break with some inventory addons, so proceed with caution.

v1.6.2
  • [FIX] Issue where trading weeks don't return the correct value under specific circumstances

v1.6.1
  • [FIX] Issue where the donate button was showing up on servers other than NA

v1.6.0
  • [UPDATE] Added support for new trader flip times. The first week (Sunday - Tuesday) will be 9 days to match server kiosk times, and the following weeks will shift to Tuesday - Tuesday
  • [NEW] Added a setting to use the traditional Sunday - Sunday trader week instead of the new server week
  • [NEW] Added the price graph to the provisioning and furniture crafting interfaces
  • [NEW] Added an option to enable displaying market value in inventory lists in place of base game value (this is a preview feature and is disabled by default)
  • [UPDATE] Added new crafting styles for master writ craft costs
  • [UPDATE] Reenabled the Donate button within the ATT window for NA players
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 27 "Stonethorn"

v1.5.6
  • [FIX] Issue where menus would have invalid draw levels when ATT was enabled

v1.5.5
  • [FIX] Issue where Night Mother's Embrace and Night Mother's Gaze items would incorrectly share and report sales data from both sets
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 26 "Greymoor"

v1.5.4
  • [FIX] Incorrect style material link for Shield of Senchal master writs

v1.5.3
  • [FIX] Trade tooltips not updating properly (Thanks, @Wickerman666!)

v1.5.2
  • [FIX] UI error that could occur when visiting a guild store via the bank with AGS enabled, but without interacting with the search window

v1.5.1
  • [FIX] Disabled unit price sorting until performance edge cases can be fixed

v1.5.0
  • [NEW] Added an AwesomeGuildStore filter to find good deals. (Items with no sales data default to OK; this can be modified in settings.)
  • [NEW] Added market price margin support to the item listings screen
  • [FIX] Typo in Purchases settings menu (Thanks, @Spotlightstar!)
  • [UPDATE] Enabled sorting by unit price within sales and purchases tabs
  • [UPDATE] Added new crafting styles for master writ craft costs

v1.4.0
  • [NEW] Added tooltip support for player-to-player trade windows
  • [NEW] Added keybind for opening the popup tooltip from inventory items
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 25 "Harrowstorm"

v1.3.0
  • [UPDATE] Added new jewelry crafting writs and crafting styles for master writ craft costs

v1.2.0
  • [NEW] Added tooltip support for looting and NPC vendors

v1.1.3
  • [FIX] Updated AGS integration to show margin information in the guild trader UI
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 24 "Dragonhold"
  • [REMOVED] Embedded LibAddonMenu (this must be installed as a separate dependency)

v1.1.2
  • [FIX] Updated guild scanning to use new guild history APIs
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 23 "Scalebreaker"

v1.1.1
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue with master writs tooltips throwing a Lua error because of undefined numbers
  • [FIX] Disabled guild store extensions for Awesome Guild Store users again. They were accidentally enabled in the previous patch. A real fix still has to be found.


v1.1.0
  • [FIX] Tooltips won't show statistical information about BOP items anymore
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue with localization of decimal numbers
  • [NEW] This patch introduces the flrst step to display the average crafting costs for items required by master writs. This information is shown on the writ's tooltips.

    Note that not all writs are supported yet. Writs that should work:
    • [-] Blacksmithing
      [-] Clothier
      [-] Woodworking
      [-] Jewelry

    Others may be added at a later point.

    This feature is enabled by default and can be disabled through the addon's settings.

v1.0.15
  • [FIX] Tooltips should now show correct price information for jewelry materials
  • [FIX] Fixed a pattern matching issue for Russian clients
  • [Update] Guild store extensions have been visually adjusted to the new user interface introduced with Wrathstone
    Note: This feature is currently disabled for Awesome Guild Store users, as there is a incompatibility that has to get resolved first

v1.0.14
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue that caused Purchases module to display/store wrong data in combination with Awesome Guild Store

v1.0.13
  • [FIX] Fixed a bug that caused a LUA error when localizing decimal numbers
  • [NEW] Added Russian localization (special thanks to @Petrakon)
  • [NEW] Added French localization (special thanks to @Kerthas)

v1.0.12
  • [FIX] Fixed a bug that caused a LUA error when buying from a guild store

v1.0.11
  • [FIX] Fixed UI-Error caused by guild store changes
  • [NEW] Added single item price column to sales and purchases tabs - sorting that column by price will stay deactivated for now
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 21 "Wrathstone"

v1.0.10
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 19 "Wolfhunter"

v1.0.9
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 18 "Summerset“

v1.0.8
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 17 "Dragon Bones“

v1.0.7
  • [FIX] Reverted Shissu's patch
  • [UPDATE] Removed donation button
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 16 "Clockwork City“

v1.0.6
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue that caused a LUA error when using a client language other than German or English
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue where filtering for account names that contain a '-' character would return no results
  • [UPDATE] Added compatibility for ESO update 15 "Horns of the Reach“

v1.0.5
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue with missing default settings

v1.0.4
  • [FIX] Last week time selection on statistics tab is back on English clients
  • [NEW] Added a new toggle button to the top-right corner of the main window. This lets you select if the window is drawn above or below other ui elements
  • [NEW] When shopping at guild stores, ATT will now prevent the search result list to reset to the top each time you buy something
  • [NEW] Added a key binding to toggle the main window
  • Some code restructure

v1.0.3
  • [FIX] ATT won't handle non-item links anymore
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue, where you couldn't correctly post a price check on some crafted items
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue, that caused a LUA error when handling custom item links
  • [NEW] Added "Prior week" to time filters for Sales/Purchases/Statistics modules
  • [NEW] Added an option to disable the graph in item tooltips
  • [FIX] Fixed a few typos
  • Some code restructure

v1.0.2
  • [FIX] Added missing LibStub to the package

v1.0.1
  • [FIX] Fixed an issue with English localisation

v1.0.0
  • First release
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Notes and FAQs

v2.0.0 is compatible with Update 41, but please delete your ATT saved variables before upgrading as old data is not compatible with new data.

Please read this post before commenting. It will help keep the thread clean and save us all time and trouble.

FAQs & Known Issues:

I'm not seeing my recent sales. Is ATT broken?

This is a server problem, not one with ATT. During periods of high load, the ESO servers will throttle addon access to get more guild history. If this happens, the only way to get more historical data quickly is to manually pull guild history.

Pulling history manually:
  1. Open your Guilds menu and select the guild with the history you want to update.
  2. To go the History tab, then click on Sales.
  3. Hit E (or your appropriate keybind) at a slow but consistent pace to pull historical data.
  4. Once you've hit 10 days of history, the E hotkey will stop pulling data and you will be up to date.
  5. If the server has stopped pushing new history because of high load, the only way to get that data without waiting for the server is to quit the game entirely and load in again.
    NOTE: You only need to run a full pull once. If you need to manually pull later because of an absence or server load, you only need to go as far back as your last logout.

I get an error message like "ArkadiusTradeToolsSales.lua:757: operator < is not supported for nil < number" or "ArkadiusTradeToolsSales.lua:444: table index is nil" and I don't know how to fix it.

Your saved variables have likely become corrupted. You either need to restore a backup or delete them and then repopulate your sales data.


The Popup Tooltip controls are overlayed in the corner of the screen (or some other unnatural location).

The cause of this bug is unknown, but appears to be caused by another addon (or addons). AUI users have reported problems with this in the past, but we have never been able to reproduce the issue, so we have no way to fix it. If you've run across this problem and can provide reliable reproduction steps, please comment and let us know.


ATT gets deleted after installing via Minion

ATT includes a Lua runtime for exporting sales data, which some antivirus software doesn't like. Ensure your antivirus software is not quarantining or deleting ATT or any of its directories.


Sorting bugs with AutoCategory enabled

There are known issues with AutoCategory and sorting by value. We don't have a fix right now, but suggest either disabling inventory price replacement or not using the sort while you have AutoCategory running.


Can you add support for ignoring outliers?

It is on my list, but I don't have a release date right now.


I'd like to help out with development, or fix a bug I've found. How can I contribute?

Fantastic! If you'd like to get involved in ATT's development, we have an organization on Github. Feel free to open an issue or make a pull request with your changes.
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Originally Posted by wyndstryke
Originally Posted by Verling
Good afternoon. I would like to draw your attention to one more problem in the non-English interface. After Patch 41, UI fonts do not contain national blocks
You could probably edit the source of the add-on to select a different font? If you were to do that, and post it here, the add-on author would probably merge the change for you.

I think the underlying problem is on ZOS's side, and they'll most likely fix it soon.
If I were coding at that level, I would just rewrite the code completely and not ask. I am not a programmer, but an OS troubleshooting engineer
ATT for some reason forcibly sets the same fonts that the client himself uses.
The API allows you to change fonts, but only when they are not set forcibly. This is used in the Font Changer addon, but I had to pick up free fonts.
Wait for it to be fixed ? yes, zos calve faster. A week has passed.
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Re: Question on LibHistoire

Originally Posted by ckd
More of a question on future direction on the mod. Is the use of LIbHistoire a bandaid until an internal solution can be scripted, or is the dependency the direction moving forward?

After a good year of using MM with LibHistoire, I was over joyed to be finally rid of it because all the problems everyone has been complaining about, and the overall instability of the add-on would cause me to lose data all the time.
As of Update 41 guild history is no longer saved to SavedVariables by LibHistorie. ZOS manages its own binary cache. See the following thread for more details.

https://www.esoui.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10724
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Question on LibHistoire

More of a question on future direction on the mod. Is the use of LIbHistoire a bandaid until an internal solution can be scripted, or is the dependency the direction moving forward?

After a good year of using MM with LibHistoire, I was over joyed to be finally rid of it because all the problems everyone has been complaining about, and the overall instability of the add-on would cause me to lose data all the time.
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Originally Posted by Jylly
it's exactly the same with me

everything green, log back, everything gone, all over again... frustrated
Originally Posted by jumi01
I think frustrations come from many directions, but my biggest frustration is that the system actually FORGETS what i manually scraped the day before. AND the day before. And so on. It's not that i have to scrap everything SINCE the last time i did... but i have to do all freaking 150 pages of data for each trade guild just to get all the data.... again.
This is not the behavior of the ZOS binary cache. LibHistoire no longer has a cache and is no longer in control of any sales data. Meaning, the buyer, seller, item, guild name, price, tax, none of that comes from LibHistoire anymore because of Update 41. Because of Update 41 LibHistoire no longer writes sales data to SavedVariables.

Without more information there is no way to know what you mean by all gone. Please don't just say that you log back in and everything is gone and you don't follow up and help clarify what that means, because that won't help resolve the situation.

At Aldanga's request, please post in this thread: https://www.esoui.com/forums/showthr...9544#post49544
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Here are some notes from recent discussions:

Refresh button on sales window
The refresh button should always show if the Sales module is enabled.

There's no other scenario where it's supposed to be hidden. If it doesn't show, try closing ESO, then uninstall ATT and reinstall it again. No need to clear saved variables if you've done it before.

Clearing cache
I don't recommend clearing cache.

ESO locally stores a history of transactions within your guilds for a long period of time. I'm not in a bunch of trading guilds, but here's how I understand the purpose of the cache:
  • Initially, ESO loads history and populates that into the cache.
  • The user logs out for a period of time. Let's say 2 days just for the sake of clarity here.
  • When logging in again, the game displays transactions in guild history sequentially from the current time backwards. If the last known transaction was 2 days ago and ESO doesn't have the newer items, it won't show those cached transactions. Once all new transactions have been received and there are no time holes in history, all known transactions (including those in cache) will be shown.
  • If you clear cache, you lose that local history and ESO will start showing all of the transactions immediately. But this will cause higher load on the server and remove the benefits of the cache.
LibHistoire alert on exit/logout
If you see the LibHistoire warning about not being linked, you can generally still log out. Just select the alternate option (Alt is default). Once you've logged in again, history can be refetched and things will be updated once all transactions have been found again.

Loading sales history
I have not yet seen guild history API populate transactions without manual intervention. If you want data, make sure to open your Guild tab and navigate to Sales and manually pull new data when allowed. If you have trouble with cooldowns, try disabling all addons before logging in, then pulling history, and finally reenabling your addons.

Please also make sure you're checking for updates manually or via Minion as Sirinsidiator has been updating LibHistoire very consistently. Siri worked really hard to update LibHistoire and make it backwards compatible (which is why I could get the ATT update out so quickly). I hope people recognize the blood, sweat, and tears that devs put into libs and addons. Siri is indispensable to those writing and using addons and deserves support (verbal and otherwise, IMO) for that.

Further discussion re: LibHistoire
If people need help troubleshooting LibHistoire and want their questions answered, I think it's best if we move that to another thread. I want to make sure we keep this area clean so I don't miss any bug reports and can help people with other ATT-specific issues and troubleshooting.
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Good afternoon. I would like to draw your attention to one more problem in the non-English interface. After Patch 41, UI fonts do not contain national blocks. As a result, the data of many inscriptions is not visible in them.
We (several dozen guilds) solved the problem through Font Changer and many addons worked fine. MM itself contains many national UI fonts. But ATT hardcodes fonts in its code. Is it possible to solve this somehow?
I'd like to connect on this. Is there someone in your group that is familiar with GitHub who would be willing to post an issue on the ATT repository so I can dig into this a bit more? If it's been fixed with Font Changer, it shouldn't be an issue for ATT, though it will require some changes.

https://github.com/ArkadiusTradeTool...us-trade-tools

A PR was recently merged to fix the Cyrillic issue, but I haven't yet cut a release.
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For those Frustrated about ATT using LibHistoire

I'm concerned with all the complaints about LibHistoire being added to ATT. If it had not been added you would still be waiting for a functional ATT. I would hope more people would be appreciative that Aldanga took the time (when he said his time was limited) to provide a new version.

For those that switched from MM to ATT to avoid the notification, it was added because people would not have all the data they were missing and log out prematurely. Leading to many situations where a user needed more than 10 days of data. Prior to Update 41 the server only kept 10 days of data. Any time you were missing more than 10 days you would have a gap in data that could not be filled. The most extreme case being 120 days and the average around 30 days.

If those that have felt LibHistoire added extra steps, that is incorrect.

There are plenty of changes (new, extra steps) because of update 41 for example, there is a small image now that says



To keep people from mashing the E key.

The minimum cooldown for requesting data from the server is 2 minutes. That doesn't mean it can't end up being longer if the server is very active. The author of LibHistoire recently mentioned the cooldown times are 2 to 5+ minutes. You can read it in his comments if you like. That means, at 2 minutes 20 requests, would be 40 minutes and 20 requests at 5 minutes would be, 100 minutes.

Users have complained about receiving data automatically for years now. It's not the mods. ATT didn't receive data differently prior to Update 41 than LibHistoire because mods have to use the same functions to obtain Guild History data.

As I always said with MM, if you want your data, log in, open guild history, manually request your data, and once you have your data you can log in and out to your hearts content and do writs or whatever else you would like to do. Once all the bars are green you won't have the notification.



If you have been using ATT to avoid having to do anything, expecting to log in, do writs for an hour, never open or touch the Guild History UI at all, then that assumes the server is going to agree with your expectations.

As long as you do everything correctly, don't clear the ZOS binary cache when you don't need to, don't button mash the mouse and switch categories, wait when you see the spinning circle and Retrieving Information, ignore the categories you don't need by setting them to Force Off, then you can get all the bars to be green in a few minutes for all 5 guilds.
I think frustrations come from many directions, but my biggest frustration is that the system actually FORGETS what i manually scraped the day before. AND the day before. And so on. It's not that i have to scrap everything SINCE the last time i did... but i have to do all freaking 150 pages of data for each trade guild just to get all the data.... again.

it's exactly the same with me

everything green, log back, everything gone, all over again... frustrated
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Originally Posted by Sharlikran
For those Frustrated about ATT using LibHistoire

I'm concerned with all the complaints about LibHistoire being added to ATT. If it had not been added you would still be waiting for a functional ATT. I would hope more people would be appreciative that Aldanga took the time (when he said his time was limited) to provide a new version.

For those that switched from MM to ATT to avoid the notification, it was added because people would not have all the data they were missing and log out prematurely. Leading to many situations where a user needed more than 10 days of data. Prior to Update 41 the server only kept 10 days of data. Any time you were missing more than 10 days you would have a gap in data that could not be filled. The most extreme case being 120 days and the average around 30 days.

If those that have felt LibHistoire added extra steps, that is incorrect.

There are plenty of changes (new, extra steps) because of update 41 for example, there is a small image now that says



To keep people from mashing the E key.

The minimum cooldown for requesting data from the server is 2 minutes. That doesn't mean it can't end up being longer if the server is very active. The author of LibHistoire recently mentioned the cooldown times are 2 to 5+ minutes. You can read it in his comments if you like. That means, at 2 minutes 20 requests, would be 40 minutes and 20 requests at 5 minutes would be, 100 minutes.

Users have complained about receiving data automatically for years now. It's not the mods. ATT didn't receive data differently prior to Update 41 than LibHistoire because mods have to use the same functions to obtain Guild History data.

As I always said with MM, if you want your data, log in, open guild history, manually request your data, and once you have your data you can log in and out to your hearts content and do writs or whatever else you would like to do. Once all the bars are green you won't have the notification.



If you have been using ATT to avoid having to do anything, expecting to log in, do writs for an hour, never open or touch the Guild History UI at all, then that assumes the server is going to agree with your expectations.

As long as you do everything correctly, don't clear the ZOS binary cache when you don't need to, don't button mash the mouse and switch categories, wait when you see the spinning circle and Retrieving Information, ignore the categories you don't need by setting them to Force Off, then you can get all the bars to be green in a few minutes for all 5 guilds.
I think frustrations come from many directions, but my biggest frustration is that the system actually FORGETS what i manually scraped the day before. AND the day before. And so on. It's not that i have to scrap everything SINCE the last time i did... but i have to do all freaking 150 pages of data for each trade guild just to get all the data.... again.
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Good afternoon. I would like to draw your attention to one more problem in the non-English interface. After Patch 41, UI fonts do not contain national blocks
You could probably edit the source of the add-on to select a different font? If you were to do that, and post it here, the add-on author would probably merge the change for you.

I think the underlying problem is on ZOS's side, and they'll most likely fix it soon.
Nope, ZOS switched from .ttf and .otf files in favor of the Slug format for this update. It's not anything ZOS would fix.
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Good afternoon. I would like to draw your attention to one more problem in the non-English interface. After Patch 41, UI fonts do not contain national blocks
You could probably edit the source of the add-on to select a different font? If you were to do that, and post it here, the add-on author would probably merge the change for you.

I think the underlying problem is on ZOS's side, and they'll most likely fix it soon.
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I don't think I've seen this 'events not linked' notification, is it a popup?


Yes, that popup or notification.
Ah, I've definitely not seen that.

In retrospect I think the reason I haven't seen it should have been obvious to me (I have to blame my 2am brain). it is because I try to do all the guild trading work on the first character - i.e., I log in, manually load guild trading history, relist any sold items, and only after that do I continue with other tasks (writs or whatever), and other characters. So basically by the time I log out of the first character, I've either fully synced the trading history or had to go down the clear cache route on the various stuck guilds.

It's a bit of a pain that we can only clear cache on 1 guild at a time since it does an immediate reloadui. Maybe the alternative is to delete all the cache files before the game starts, but that seems excessive given that some of those cache files could have been OK.

One tip for ATT users - ATT stores guild history itself. There is no reason to reload the cache all the way back to the dawn of time. Provided you are just using ATT and not MM, just manually reload enough to cover the gap, LH will work quicker, and there is less scope for failures that way.

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Yeah the above is what I'm seeing. This typically happens on a few guilds each time. 4 out of 5 was the worst, 1 out of 5 is the best.

On 4/5 guilds, the only history I have enabled is the trading data, on the 5th guild I am a senior officer therefore I need most of the history enabled for that particular guild.

Overall retrieving guild history seems significantly more difficult after the update than before. Hopefully things will improve with the next few maintenance patches and add-on updates. It would be good to know why the history load gets stuck, if that's due to corruption, or a game issue, or an LH add-on issue.

Another thing I'm uncertain about is why LH has to fully link the history before moving onto the next character. Presumably it can't save partially processed saved variables for some reason. This is something which pre-U41 ATT had always been good at, you could skim through characters and it'll just continue incrementally loading history without issue. I suspect this is the reason that ATT users are struggling with the shift to LH.
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Good afternoon. I would like to draw your attention to one more problem in the non-English interface. After Patch 41, UI fonts do not contain national blocks. As a result, the data of many inscriptions is not visible in them.
We (several dozen guilds) solved the problem through Font Changer and many addons worked fine. MM itself contains many national UI fonts. But ATT hardcodes fonts in its code. Is it possible to solve this somehow?
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Some of the comments I have seen imply people are using the clear cache feature on any char where they have the notification that events are not linked. Which isn't going to help the situation.
I don't think I've seen this 'events not linked' notification, is it a popup?


Yes, that popup or notification.

Originally Posted by wyndstryke
The main thing I experience is LH getting completely stuck on several guilds with no way to manually load the history.
I'm not sure people are used to the Vanilla UI yet. So I know what stuck is because I'm developing mods, I am unsure if everyone else really knows what stuck and not stuck is.

What is a stuck or hung guild Trader category?





When you have selected the Trader category and you see either of those two things, then the guild history is stuck. The top one, I'm on page 4 and I know I should have more than 4 hours of history for that guild. The bottom one, if you see Retrieving history for more than a few minutes, maybe 5 then it is stuck.

Now if you are button mashing the mouse and just click every category then that will cause the client to make requests for data that's not needed. So if a user does that then that's on them. They need to go, slowly and don't select anything you are ignoring and have set to Force Off.

Update to LibHistoire 2.0.7 and you should be fine. If you have the latest version, then clear the cache from the LibHistoire UI only if it appears to be truly stuck, not because of the popup.

If that doesn't resolve the issue then make sure you only have MM/ATT/LibHistoire active. If you have other mods that use the Guild History API directly then the author could be using it incorrectly and placing everything on a global cooldown.

What is not stuck, but causes the popup?



There is a small purple line by that arrow. Basically what is happening is the ZOS API is reporting that the category has a pending request when it doesn't. The top most sale is from 10 minutes ago. If a new sale comes in it will say <1 minute ago and then that bar will update and turn green.

This is not stuck!

What is expected



That is not stuck, Show More doesn't show unless you are on the last page prior to a gap in data.



That is not stuck, because that is a casual guild and they don't have a trader. There is only 13 days of data available.



That is not stuck because I'm on the last page and I have all the data already that is available on the server.



That is not stuck becacuse I was only offline for a short time and as you see in the Guild History I am on page 11, no Show More because I have all the data and LibHistoire is processing the information.



That is not stuck because I'm no page 39, I see 2 days of data, I have been to the last page which might be 17 or 18 days of data now, and there won't be a Show More because you have all the data already.
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Some of the comments I have seen imply people are using the clear cache feature on any char where they have the notification that events are not linked. Which isn't going to help the situation.
I don't think I've seen this 'events not linked' notification, is it a popup?

The main thing I experience is LH getting completely stuck on several guilds with no way to manually load the history.
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