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Plunder Skull Timer (2022 Witches Festival)  Popular! (More than 5000 hits)
Version: 1.7.0
by: code65536 [More]


Dremora skulls are now daily resets, rather than 20-hour cooldowns. Regular plunder skulls have no cooldown in group dungeons, trials, or arenas. In other areas, they have a 3-minute cooldown.

Old Information (pre-2019)

What's new in 2018?

It appears that the 3-minute cooldown on regular Plunder Skulls has been removed for the 2018 festival for most sources of regular Plunder Skulls. For the most part, the on-screen timer can be ignored.

The 2018 festival also introduces the new Dremora Plunder Skulls, which appear to be on a 20-hour cooldown from the previous skull of that type that was looted. The /pstdremora command was added to support this.

Dremora Plunder Skulls

Typing the /pstdremora command into chat will print to your chatbox a log of the Dremora Plunder Skulls that you have looted and when each was looted, to help with managing the eligibility cooldowns on these skulls.

You can also include an optional filter term; e.g., if you type /pstdremora tri, it will show only the skulls whose names contain "tri" (i.e., the Trial skulls); typing /pstdremora without a filter term will show the full unfiltered log.

Alternatively, there is another addon that can track Dremora Plunder Skulls in a manner that's more user-friendly than a log dump: Event Tickets



Old Information (pre-2018)

What is the Plunder Skull Timer and what does it do?

This simple addon displays the amount of time that has elapsed since the last time you looted a Plunder Skull.

Since the Plunder Skulls from the Witches Festival appear have an internal drop cooldown, it's useful to see how long it's been since your last loot.

How do I use this addon?

Just install the addon! The timer will automatically appear when you loot a Plunder Skull, and the timer will automatically reset when you loot another Plunder Skull. If you haven't looted a Plunder Skull in a long time (over 15 minutes), the timer will automatically stop and hide itself.

Once the timer appears, you can reposition it by using your mouse to drag it around.

You can manually hide the timer by double-clicking on it.

You can disable the auto-hide feature (so that the timer will run indefinitely) by typing the /pstautohide command into chat.

How long is the cooldown on Plunder Skulls?

Based on my testing, the cooldown is exactly 3 minutes for bosses in group dungeons. I think it's safe to assume that the same cooldown applies to other instanced content, such as trials and arenas. It's been reported that public dungeon bosses also share the same 3-minute cooldown. Reports on the forums suggest that the cooldown is higher for overland and delve bosses, but I have not tested this to confirm nor do I know what their cooldowns are.
  • Version 1.7.0 (2022/10/20)
    • Updated for the 2022 Witches Festival

  • Version 1.6.0 (2021/10/21)
    • Updated for the 2021 Witches Festival

  • Version 1.5.0 (2020/10/22)
    • Updated for the 2020 Witches Festival

  • Version 1.4.1 (2019/10/25)
    • Adjusted the format of the Dremora Plunder Skull log to reflect the new reset timing

  • Version 1.4.0 (2019/10/24)
    • Preliminary update for the 2019 Witches Festival; it is unclear if Dremora Plunder Skulls are still on a 20-hour timer or if they have been changed to reset at 0600 UTC, so further adjustments may be needed

  • Version 1.3.2 (2018/10/20)
    • Reinstated the timer for regular skulls; although the vast majority of regular skull sources are not subject to a cooldown, it appears that some skull sources are still subject to a cooldown

  • Version 1.3.1 (2018/10/20)
    • Server identity (NA/EU) will now be remembered for newly-acquired skulls; the log display will note if a skull was acquired on a server different than the current server (the server identity will be shown only if the current server is not the skull's origin, and it is not retroactive for any skulls acquired before installing version 1.3.1)

  • Version 1.3.0 (2018/10/20)
    • Disabled the timer for regular Plunder Skulls
    • The /pstdremora command can now filter by skull type; e.g., if you type "/pstdremora tri", it will show only the skulls whose names contain "tri" (i.e., the Trial skulls); typing "/pstdremora" without a filter term will still show the full log as before

  • Version 1.2.4 (2018/10/18)
    • Based on forum reports of the cooldown duration, the timestamps for the Dremora Plunder Skull log are now color-coded red if it was less than 20 hours ago, and green otherwise

  • Version 1.2.3 (2018/10/18)
    • Added a chat command (/pstdremora) to show a time log of the Dremora Plunder Skulls you have looted

  • Version 1.2.2 (2018/10/18)
    • Updated for the 2018 Witches Festival

  • Version 1.2.1 (2017/10/23)
    • API version bump for Update 16 (Clockwork City)

  • Version 1.2.0 (2017/10/20)
    • Updated for the 2017 Witches Festival

  • Version 1.1.1 (2016/10/24)
    • The timer will now start counting from a combat end event, if there was one 15 seconds or less before a skull pickup (The game's cooldown starts when the boss is killed, but since there is no way to track that, the addon uses the skull pickup time instead as a close approximation; this change refines that heuristic by using the combat end time, if there was a combat end event shortly before a skull pickup)

  • Version 1.1.0 (2016/10/17)
    • The timer is now color-coded: red from 00:00 to 2:29, yellow from 2:30 to 2:59, and green from 3:00 onwards
    • Right-clicking on the timer will post the current elapsed time into group chat

  • Version 1.0.1 (2016/10/14)
    • The timer will no longer trigger from skulls looted by group members

  • Version 1.0.0 (2016/10/14)
    • Initial version
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Unread 10/14/16, 05:00 PM  
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The 3 minute (roughly) timer is also good for Public Dungeons
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Unread 10/15/16, 05:18 AM  
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Based on my experience the general drop timer is 3 minutes. But if you keep killing the same boss over and over the timer is 5 minutes because the boss loot drop timer is 5 minutes.

Edit: After some more accurate testing the same-boss timer is actually somewhere between 3:35 to 3:50 minutes.

Edit2: I am really confused. I've now also gotten a few skulls at the 3:20 mark while camping the same boss. 90% of the time tho I will get no drop at that mark. Maybe it's random from 3 to 4 minutes?
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Unread 10/15/16, 07:19 PM  
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Love the addon. Coud you make the timer clickable so that it lets you post your time left to be able to loot a boss to the chat? that way you can share it.

Something like:

"2:42 min since last skull loot please wait with the pull"
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Unread 10/17/16, 08:45 PM  
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Originally Posted by Tonyleila
Love the addon. Coud you make the timer clickable so that it lets you post your time left to be able to loot a boss to the chat? that way you can share it.

Something like:

"2:42 min since last skull loot please wait with the pull"
In the new version that I just posted, right-clicking on the timer will post a message to chat with the elapsed time.
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Unread 10/18/16, 09:27 AM  
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Okey, so I know why I was getting inconsistent results before. The in-game drop timer actually starts when the boss dies. But since can't loot the millisecond the boss dies the counter will sometimes get the time wrong. But the actual drop time while camping a delve boss is 4 mins.
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yes timer is when boss died
not skull picked up
i just got two skulls in 30 seconds because of this
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Unread 10/22/16, 06:15 PM  
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Originally Posted by QuadroTony
yes timer is when boss died
not skull picked up
i just got two skulls in 30 seconds because of this
That's correct. The game's cooldown is from boss death to boss death, but this addon measures from skull pickup. The reason is that there is no reliable way to know when a boss with a skull drop has died. Most of the time, people loot the boss immediately after death, within just a second or two, so this is usually a close and good enough approximation.
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Originally Posted by code65536
Originally Posted by QuadroTony
yes timer is when boss died
not skull picked up
i just got two skulls in 30 seconds because of this
That's correct. The game's cooldown is from boss death to boss death, but this addon measures from skull pickup. The reason is that there is no reliable way to know when a boss with a skull drop has died. Most of the time, people loot the boss immediately after death, within just a second or two, so this is usually a close and good enough approximation.
Got an idea: Take the smaller timestamp of loot or combat end? Still not 100%, just an idea.
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Unread 10/24/16, 12:57 PM  
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Originally Posted by votan
Originally Posted by code65536
Originally Posted by QuadroTony
yes timer is when boss died
not skull picked up
i just got two skulls in 30 seconds because of this
That's correct. The game's cooldown is from boss death to boss death, but this addon measures from skull pickup. The reason is that there is no reliable way to know when a boss with a skull drop has died. Most of the time, people loot the boss immediately after death, within just a second or two, so this is usually a close and good enough approximation.
Got an idea: Take the smaller timestamp of loot or combat end? Still not 100%, just an idea.
I've added that to the new 1.1.1 that I just posted...

As you said, it's not perfect, and there are limitations:
  • Only combat-end events prior to a skull pickup will be considered. There are many cases where a character would be stuck in combat after a boss dies or where there are adds still fighting after a boss is dead and looted.
  • There's a 15s threshold--any end-of-combat events that happen more than 15s before a skull loot won't be considered. I think 15s is more than enough for someone to loot a boss, and I would rather that the timer err on the side of caution and overstate the cooldown than understate it, so the 15s limit is there to preclude any weird scenarios.

In my brief testing of this change, this now adjusts the time a couple of seconds or so closer to what it should be in many cases, so it's a nice albeit small refinement of the timing heuristic.
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The timer is 3 Min if you kill different bosses and 5 min if you kill same boss over and over again.
Maybe that coud be displayed in the timer? Like yellow text when 3 min green text when 5 min +
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Unread 11/02/16, 08:47 PM  
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Originally Posted by Tonyleila
The timer is 3 Min if you kill different bosses and 5 min if you kill same boss over and over again.
Maybe that coud be displayed in the timer? Like yellow text when 3 min green text when 5 min +
Not necessarily true. I farmed a delve boss (Mati in Mehrune's Sprite, Auridon) and the Plunder Skulls were directly tied to his cool-down at 4 minutes.
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Unread 10/21/17, 04:05 AM  
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Originally Posted by code65536
Originally Posted by votan
Originally Posted by code65536
Originally Posted by QuadroTony
yes timer is when boss died
not skull picked up
i just got two skulls in 30 seconds because of this
That's correct. The game's cooldown is from boss death to boss death, but this addon measures from skull pickup. The reason is that there is no reliable way to know when a boss with a skull drop has died. Most of the time, people loot the boss immediately after death, within just a second or two, so this is usually a close and good enough approximation.
Got an idea: Take the smaller timestamp of loot or combat end? Still not 100%, just an idea.
I've added that to the new 1.1.1 that I just posted...

As you said, it's not perfect, and there are limitations:
  • Only combat-end events prior to a skull pickup will be considered. There are many cases where a character would be stuck in combat after a boss dies or where there are adds still fighting after a boss is dead and looted.
  • There's a 15s threshold--any end-of-combat events that happen more than 15s before a skull loot won't be considered. I think 15s is more than enough for someone to loot a boss, and I would rather that the timer err on the side of caution and overstate the cooldown than understate it, so the 15s limit is there to preclude any weird scenarios.

In my brief testing of this change, this now adjusts the time a couple of seconds or so closer to what it should be in many cases, so it's a nice albeit small refinement of the timing heuristic.
any new methods in API added since last year? to detect boss death for example
there was alot changes in API, thats why im asking
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Unread 10/21/17, 05:40 PM  
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Awesome

Great addon to grind plunder skulls! But, sometimes, it doesn't work in Cyrrodill
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Unread 10/22/17, 01:59 AM  
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can you add a sound effect when the timer reaches 3mins/5mins/15mins?
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Unread 10/22/17, 06:23 AM  
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Thank you so much for this! This makes the farm so much more manageable and lets me run normal dungeons at a good pace without having to waste time to stop and wait "just in case".
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