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Folium Discognitum

Hey all,

I hope this is a simple question and that I just can't find the answer. How can I tell if I've read the Folium Discognitum on a given character? I can't locate it in the Lore Library and that may be because it's listed as a scroll on the item card. Here's the item card and link.

Code:

|H1:item:45720:364:50:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:10000:0|h|h

Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately it doesn't look like there is a way to do this right now. None of the api methods that accept an item link return anything that would indicate that it was read. The best you can do is check if the player has already done the quest and then check if the item is in the inventory, but that also doesn't necessarily mean that he has abandoned his humanity and let Valaste get taken (who would ever do that for 2 measly skill points? :confused:).

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Originally Posted by sirinsidiator (Post 33230)

(who would ever do that for 2 measly skill points? :confused:).

Who indeed. Haha...ha...

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Originally Posted by sirinsidiator (Post 33230)

You saved Valaste??!! But... but... skill points!!

I saved Valaste too o/

I've saved VAlaste with my first char, then noticed I'll get 2 points for not saving her, and decided to save her with every 2nd char then ;)

I think it's irresponisble to save valaste, as Uncle Sheo is clearly very lonely and in dire need of some company. Also Valaste doesn't seem to mind, so from my perspective the only responsible action here is to let her go with Uncle Sheo :D.

I saved Valaste too.
After seeing it was only an additional skill point, and a 150% exp bonus scroll, it wasn't worth it.

(I still have skill points because I've collected every skyshard in Tamriel)

Two extra skill points, and you can never have enough. I've gotten every non PvP skill point and still run out.

You should run around and get the easy pvp skill points (ones not behind enemy gates); they add up. You don't need a group or anything.

Sorry, I meant all the skill points not from the PvP levels. I've already gotten that sweet skyshard furniture.

Oh, yeah. I have no interest in going for that either.

Yeah, I also saved Valaste the first time around. I'm working on something for skill points (all of them) and the Folium is the only thing I can't seem to isolate. It's not even in Eidetic Memory.

Guess this thread has gotten slightly off topic :D

I suppose you might be able to exhaustively check how many skill points a player has, and then exhaustively go through all the sources of skill points. I'm not certain if the Folium Discognitum counts as 6 skyshards, or 2 skill points API wise. If it counts as 6 skyshards you'd need to add up all the skyshards obtained. If it's 2 skill points, then you could count up skill points obtained from completed quests, skyshards (GetNumSkyShards()) and PvP.

Counting skill points is a bit hard.

I did a pretty good algorithm in superstar :

All you have to do is to maintain the list of given skill points. It could be a bit optimized with skillLinesId, but I still didn't did it since addition of those functions. It would eliminate craft localization issue and the Guild/World skilllines which have dynamic skilllines indices.

Lua Code:

local SKILLTYPES_IN_SKILLBUILDER = 8
local ABILITY_LEVEL_NONMORPHED = 0
 
function SuperStarSkills:GetAvailableSkillPoints()
    
    local skillPoints = 0
    
    -- SkillTypes (class, etc)
    for skillType=1, SKILLTYPES_IN_SKILLBUILDER do
        
        -- SkillLine (Bow, etc)
        for skillLineIndex=1, GetNumSkillLines(skillType) do
            
            for abilityIndex=1, GetNumSkillAbilities(skillType, skillLineIndex) do
                skillPoints = skillPoints + SuperStarSkills:GetPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, abilityIndex)
            end
            
        end
        
    end
    
    SuperStarSkills.spentSkillPoints = skillPoints + GetAvailableSkillPoints()
    
    return SuperStarSkills.spentSkillPoints
    
end
 
function SuperStarSkills:GetPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, abilityIndex)
    
    local _, _, _, _, _, purchased, progressionIndex = GetSkillAbilityInfo(skillType, skillLineIndex, abilityIndex)
    
    if not purchased then
        return 0
    elseif progressionIndex then
        
        -- Active skills
        
        -- Skill has been purchased
        local _, morph = GetAbilityProgressionInfo(progressionIndex)
        local skillLineName = GetSkillLineInfo(skillType, skillLineIndex)
        if morph > ABILITY_LEVEL_NONMORPHED then
            return (2 - SuperStarSkills:GetExceptionsPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, skillLineName, abilityIndex))
        else
            return (1 - SuperStarSkills:GetExceptionsPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, skillLineName, abilityIndex))
        end
        
    else
    
        -- Passive skills
        local currentUpgradeLevel = GetSkillAbilityUpgradeInfo(skillType, skillLineIndex, abilityIndex)
        
        local skillLineName = GetSkillLineInfo(skillType, skillLineIndex)
        if currentUpgradeLevel then
            return (currentUpgradeLevel - SuperStarSkills:GetExceptionsPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, skillLineName, abilityIndex))
        else
            return (1 - SuperStarSkills:GetExceptionsPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, skillLineName, abilityIndex))
        end
        
    end
    
end
 
function SuperStarSkills:GetExceptionsPointsSpentInAbility(skillType, skillLineIndex, skillLineName, abilityIndex)
 
    -- Using SkillLines because thoses skilllines can or cannot be unlocked
    
    local exceptionList = {}
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_WORLD] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_WORLD][2] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_WORLD][2][2] = true -- Soul Magic SoulTrap
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_WORLD][4] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_WORLD][4][1] = true -- WW Ultimate
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_GUILD] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_GUILD][1] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_GUILD][1][1] = true -- Blade of Woe
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_GUILD][4] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_GUILD][4][1] = true -- Finders keepers
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_RACIAL] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_RACIAL][1] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_RACIAL][1][1] = true -- 1st Racial passive
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL] = {}
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][1] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][1][1] = true -- 1st Alchemy passive
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][4] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][4][1] = true -- 1st Enchanting passive
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][4][2] = true -- 2nd Enchanting passive
    
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][6] = {}
    exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][6][1] = true -- 1st Woodworking passive
    
    local _, blackSmithing = GetCraftingSkillLineIndices(CRAFTING_TYPE_BLACKSMITHING)
    if blackSmithing == 5 then -- FR, DE
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][2] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][2][1] = true -- 1st Clothing passive
        
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][3] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][3][1] = true -- 1st Provisionning passive
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][3][2] = true -- 2nd Provisionning passive
        
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][5] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][5][1] = true -- 1st Blacksmithing passive
    else
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][3] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][3][1] = true -- 1st Clothing passive
        
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][5] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][5][1] = true -- 1st Provisionning passive
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][5][2] = true -- 2nd Provisionning passive
        
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][2] = {}
        exceptionList[SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL][2][1] = true -- 1st Blacksmithing passive
    end
    
    local skillLineConverter = {
        [LSF:GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_WORLD, 2)] = 2,
        [LSF:GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_WORLD, 4)] = 4,
        
        [LSF:GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_GUILD, 1)] = 1,
        [LSF:GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_GUILD, 4)] = 4,
    }
    
    if exceptionList[skillType] then
        if skillType == SKILL_TYPE_GUILD or skillType == SKILL_TYPE_WORLD then
            skillLineName = zo_strformat(SI_SKILLS_TREE_NAME_FORMAT, skillLineName)
            if exceptionList[skillType][skillLineConverter[skillLineName]] then
                if exceptionList[skillType][skillLineConverter[skillLineName]][abilityIndex] then
                    return 1
                end
            end
        else
            if exceptionList[skillType][skillLineIndex] then
                if exceptionList[skillType][skillLineIndex][abilityIndex] then
                    return 1
                end
            end
        end
    end
    
    return 0
    
end

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Originally Posted by Dolgubon (Post 33319)

skyshards (GetNumSkyShards())

From memory, I'm going to say that function returns 0-2 (based on level of completion towards next point) NOT the sum total you've found. But I'm pretty sure the folium isn't treated as skyshards anyway.

Yeah looks like that's what it does.

You'll need to exhaustively count skillpoints, then.

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Originally Posted by Ayantir (Post 33320)

Counting skill points is a bit hard.

I've noticed, haha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolgubon (Post 33323)

You'll need to exhaustively count skillpoints, then.

Yeah, I've put together some of the functionality but the numbers never quite match up. I believe it has to do with morphs (especially after seeing Ayantir's functions) and some of the default passives and abilities.

For now I have a complete addon showing all of the available skill points in the game from all sources besides the Folium. Until I get that part figured out, I may just decrement the available total by two and call it a day. Or I could give it a menu setting per character as another option. You'd think there would be a function call in the API like GetEarnedSkillPoints() to make life simple. :confused:

Here's a look at where I left off with that idea once I realized that some points weren't counting correctly.

Lua Code:

local function USPF_SetFoliumDiscognitumPoints()
    local skillPoints = GetAvailableSkillPoints()
    for skillType = 1, GetNumSkillTypes() do
        for skillLine = 1, GetNumSkillLines(skillType) do
            for ability = 1, GetNumSkillAbilities(skillType, skillLine) do
                if GetSkillAbilityUpgradeInfo(skillType, skillLine, ability) ~= nil then
                    skillPoints = skillPoints + GetSkillAbilityUpgradeInfo(skillType, skillLine, ability)
                else
                    _, _, _, _, _, purchased = GetSkillAbilityInfo(skillType, skillLine, ability)
                    skillPoints = (purchased and skillPoints + 1 or skillPoints)
                end 
            end
        end
    end
    
    local skillPointsDiff = USPF.pointsData.ptsLevel + USPF.pointsData.ptsMainQuest + USPF.pointsData.ptsMorrowindCharacter +
            USPF.pointsData.ptsAvALevel + USPF.pointsData.ptsMaelstrom + USPF.pointsData.ptsQuestTotal +
            USPF.pointsData.ptsSkyshardTotal + USPF.pointsData.ptsGroupDungeonTotal + USPF.pointsData.ptsPDGBTotal
    USPF.pointsData.ptsFoliumDiscognitum = (skillPoints == skillPointsDiff - 2 and 2 or 0)
    end
end

Have you taken a look at the addon SpentSkillPoints?

For discrepencies, if you got rid of werewolf or vampirism that could be where some missing skill points are.

Did you remember to exempt crafting skills that you start with points in (order changes by language)?

Did you read my code paste ? :(

*feels ignored* :(

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Originally Posted by Ayantir (Post 33333)

Did you read my code paste ? :(

*feels ignored* :(

Haha, I'm not ignoring you. I'm just going through the stages of grief in dealing with the fact that so much code is required because GetUsedSkillPoints() and/or GetEarnedSkillPoints() isn't in the API (poke @ZOS_ChipHilseberg). I've gotten past denial, anger, and bargaining and I'm closing in on depression and acceptance. :banana:

Seriously though, I've looked at both your addon, which I have had for a while now, and SpentSkillPoints. Both do something similar. I suppose I'll start hacking away at it today. I need to try to do it in a way that I don't need to preserve another big table of data. Keeping track of all of the skill point achievements, skyshards, and quests is already a lot to maintain. And that's on top of all of the individual points being stored in another big table so that the GUI can be accurately displayed.

I went through this recently for an addition for CS and I chose the lazy way out and borrowed SSP. Out of all of the weird obscure things ZOS DOES let us check on, they couldn't give us a function to access something extremely useful?

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Originally Posted by Rhyono (Post 33336)

Yeah, I know what you mean. Makes me feel dirty when I have to hack up bits of code to make it work. And you know the info is there because the re-spec skill points shrine doesn't just magically know how many to give you.

Well I was able to identify the two-point difference on all but one of my characters by going through the skills tree. Oddly enough, my main is actually showing one skill point that he doesn't actually have. Someone mentioned that there were some issues at some point with public dungeon group boss events not properly awarding a skill point. I'd be interested in hearing if any of you know any of the details about that. Anyway, I went ahead and published the addon in case any of you would like to give it a try. Thanks for all your help.

I think you should consider more the language switch in craft.
and also the vampire / ww skilllines removed but not respec'ed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayantir (Post 33345)

I think you should consider more the language switch in craft.
and also the vampire / ww skilllines removed but not respec'ed.

What exactly do you mean by the language switch in craft? I'm checking those lines in the first and second tiers by their global values, not by their order. Only at the lowest level am I checking by the skill order. What am I missing?

Lua Code:

local enchantingSkillType, enchantingSkillLine = GetCraftingSkillLineIndices(CRAFTING_TYPE_ENCHANTING)
local provisionSkillType, provisionSkillLine = GetCraftingSkillLineIndices(CRAFTING_TYPE_PROVISIONING)
 
if skillType == SKILL_TYPE_TRADESKILL then
    if skillIndex == 1 then
        return 1
    end
    
    if skillIndex == 2 then
        if skillType == enchantingSkillType and skillLine == enchantingSkillLine then
            return 1
        end
        if skillType == provisionSkillType and skillLine == provisionSkillLine then
            return 1
        end
    end
end

I'm sure iterating a hidden vampire and/or werewolf line can be done but I've not done it myself. Do you (or anyone else reading) know of a good way to iterate those trees when they're hidden?