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zork 02/27/14 08:15 AM
Working with DDS textures
 
ESO works with DDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectDraw_Surface) textures. To work with them you will need an image viewer and an image editor.

Irfanview has you covered on the viewer side. Just install Irfanview and after that install the Irfanview plugin.

Irfanview:
http://www.irfanview.com/

Irfanview Plugin:
http://www.irfanview.com/plugins.htm

To work with DDS textures you need DDS plugin for your image editor. Hopefully that is Photoshop. You can grab that plugin right from nVidia.

DDS plugin for Photoshop:
https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-...dobe-photoshop

DDS plugin for GIMP:
http://code.google.com/p/gimp-dds/

Texture size
Like in WoW your textures need to match a size multiplier of 8. Thus: 16,32,64,128,256,512,1024. Means a valid texture size is 32x32 and so on.

Two layers are important. The image layer and the alpha layer. The alpha layer decribes the opacity that is applied to the image layer later on. White color on the alpha layer means 100% opacity. Black is 0% opacity thus transparent.

Image layer


Alpha layer


Result


Saving as DDS
When saving a DDS file choose DXT5 ARGB.


AddOn Texture Integration
Assuming you have an addon that should use the texture and you have a media folder in that addon.
lua Code:
  1. local t = WINDOW_MANAGER:CreateControl("UniqueTextureName", control, CT_TEXTURE)
  2. t:SetTexture("MyAddonName/media/myTexture.dds")
  3. t:SetDimensions(64,64)
  4. t:SetAnchor(CENTER,control,CENTER,0,0)

Seerah 02/27/14 04:35 PM
If I recall correctly, Paint.NET supports .dds

zork 03/04/14 02:54 AM
If you plan on re-using some of your old textures that are saved in the TGA format you can do so. Converting a TGA into a DDS is as simple as saving the file. Both formats use the same image and alpha layer.

freshfish 04/17/14 09:30 AM
Fantastic, this is exactly what i was lookin for and i will now have graphics on my Addon :)

gamegenius86 04/17/14 09:48 AM
Great Post!

Something i have been wondering but never had the chance to look it up is whether or not you can tile a texture.

Mandrakia 04/17/14 10:55 PM
Just to avoid anyone getting stuck on this like me.

The game has an internal cache of textures(filepath/name) it failed to load and reload ui doesn't clear that cache.

Took 2 me hours to figure it out when i decided to change the filename of my texture and finally it appeared in game.

zork 04/25/14 06:16 AM
It is the same for WoW. When you add new textures always restart the client to be safe. Adjusting existing textures should work out. But adding new textures requires a restart.

Tonyleila 04/25/14 06:31 AM
Hey Zork, I use Photoshop CC (Creative Cloud) because of my studies and Windows 8 (not 8.1). Do you know any way to get the Nvidia plugin work with this? I even tryed installing both together (64 bit and 32 bit) as said in one of the Nvidia forums but I still can't open the DDS textures in Photoshop :/

Seerah 04/25/14 02:12 PM
As I mentioned above, Paint.NET supports the .dds file format. You don't need to do anything special or fancy. ;)

Tonyleila 04/25/14 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seerah (Post 5876)
As I mentioned above, Paint.NET supports the .dds file format. You don't need to do anything special or fancy. ;)
I have never worked with Paint.NET but I'm shure its dosen't have all the abilities of PS and I don't want to have an extra programm. Plus I woud have to learn many things new just because one plugin dosen't work ;)

Tonyleila 04/26/14 04:10 PM
I got the PS plugin working now with Creative Cloud version!
Download 32 bit and 64 bit. Install 32 bit first into the Photoshop 32 bit folder and then 64 bit into the Photoshop 64 bit folder. Now make shure to start the 64 bit version of PS.

SpecialK 04/28/14 11:12 PM
If you're going the XML route, you can add the image file tag like this:
Code:
<Texture name="MyAddonTexture" textureFile="MyAddonName/media/myTexture.dds">
Along with the myriad of other tags you can find here: http://wiki.esoui.com/UI_XML

I know it works with way with texture defs as I do it myself, might work as well for "Backdrop" types, etc.

klaro00 05/01/14 08:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seerah (Post 650)
If I recall correctly, Paint.NET supports .dds
Yep, I can confirm that Paint.NET is capable of handling DDS files. I found out that image sizes should have a width and height which are a power of two (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, ...), not only a multiple of 8. This constraint should only be nessacary if you save DDS files with a "mipmap" included, but it seems that even if I uncheck the mipmap option the images would not show unless the sizes are a power of two (don't know if this is only for ESO).

In Paint.NET, I use these settings when saving a DDS file (sorry, I just have the german option labels): "DXT5", Kompressortyp: "Range-Anpassung", Fehlermetrik: "Einheitlich", Keine MipMaps generieren.

HTH,
Klaro

Stormknight 05/01/14 11:23 AM
GIMP has a DDS plugin also that I've used successfully.

It also has batch convert, so I was able to convert all of the DDS texture files to PNG files, so I can browse them on my HDD, which is VERY convenient! :)

I know this list is a bit out-of-date (as in it's from beta) but figured it may be useful for people as a starter:

http://wiki.esoui.com/Texture_List

Seerah 05/01/14 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klaro00 (Post 6587)
I found out that image sizes should have a width and height which are a power of two (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, ...), not only a multiple of 8.
I didn't even notice that error in Zork's post. Yes, WoW also requires a power of 2.

Garkin 05/02/14 04:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klaro00 (Post 6587)
Yep, I can confirm that Paint.NET is capable of handling DDS files. I found out that image sizes should have a width and height which are a power of two (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, ...), not only a multiple of 8. This constraint should only be nessacary if you save DDS files with a "mipmap" included, but it seems that even if I uncheck the mipmap option the images would not show unless the sizes are a power of two (don't know if this is only for ESO).

In Paint.NET, I use these settings when saving a DDS file (sorry, I just have the german option labels): "DXT5", Kompressortyp: "Range-Anpassung", Fehlermetrik: "Einheitlich", Keine MipMaps generieren.

HTH,
Klaro
This is what I use in Paint.NET:

Fathis Ules 05/02/14 01:03 PM
yup made all in Paint.NET same setup as Garkin, does the job very well

mra4nii 05/02/14 03:38 PM
DXT5 works well in Paint.NET too. And AFAIK size of DDS you get in result is much smaller.

static 05/22/14 08:44 AM
nvidia only?
 
I have an AMD/Raedeon setup. Will these instructions work on my system?

Halja 05/22/14 08:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by static (Post 8232)
I have an AMD/Raedeon setup. Will these instructions work on my system?
Yes if you have the one of the drawing applications listed above with the DDS plug-in. DirectDraw Surface DDS textures were developed/released* as a partnership between nVidia and Microsoft for DirectX graphics library originally. Raedeon cards are not excluded. All the game textures in ESO game your machine is running are DDS format.
-Halja


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