[outdated] about ITEMTYPE_COLLECTIBLE being bound to BACKPACK

08/05/15, 07:33 AM

I don't know where to post this, but i'll try here again.

so ESO 2.1 patch note :

•Monster trophies now work more like fishing trophies: when you loot one, you automatically receive achievement credit, rather than having to use it as a separate action.

I already tried to ask about these items (monster trophies and rare fishes) being not bankable anymore (tested on PTS) on the Eso forum, but it was burried in 10 minutes by a truckload of epeen balance topics. One of the only answer i had was the total denial that it was even possible.

Is it an error due to the introduction of new keys in this catergory? (why aint they trophy anymore like the undaunted keys is beyond me)
I still hope it is because it make no sense whatsoever to promote the change with the sentence in the quote above if it isn't.

So I know, i forgot to actually ask a question in the other thread when i asked about it, so here it is :

Is it an error or is it intended?
If it's an error and will be looked into it, what API function allows me to reach these values ?

CollectibleItemType
* COLLECTIBLE_ITEM_TYPE_FISH
* COLLECTIBLE_ITEM_TYPE_NONE
* COLLECTIBLE_ITEM_TYPE_TROPHY

Thanks for reading (and hopefully answering)

**Baertram** · 08/05/15, 08:22 AM

If it's no error we cannot bank the duplicate trophys we find for another char anymore? This would be annoying...

Ayantir · 08/05/15, 09:04 AM

Could you post an itemLink for thoses new trophyes please ?
I'd like to see some values about them

08/05/15, 09:10 AM

thing is i only have fishes for now, i faked links to be able to see the trophies, so i made up most of the values and worse i can't tell for sure that they are still the same lvl that the mob you find it on (i intended to separate them with the level since fishes are still 1, and i don't intend spending hours of grinding if i'm not sure about the bind type)

Let me go on line for the fishes. I think they have changed their quality number, not sure anymore, i can't do much work without the savedvars now so i didn't check since last weekend.

I'll edit the post when i have them

"|H0:item:68146:27:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0:0|hAphotic Batfish|h" blue fish
"|H0:item:68155:26:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0:0|hImperial Loosejaw|h" green fish
"|H0:item:68151:26:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0:0|hHatchetfish|h" green fish

re edit : then i had a doubt about the consistency of this, the 3 fishes above are IC fishes, then grahtwood fishes on PTS :
"|H0:item:45386:3:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0:0|hkoi|h" hasn't changed
"|H0:item:45414:3:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0:0|hdreughfish|h" (both green)

if you want some trophies id to see for yourself the binding type and the new item type : 54185 then they mostly follow with +1 till 54237 then the last one : 54338

there are no new monster trophies, they just changed their type.
btw they still show "Backpack Bind On Pickup" on the tooltip with only the itemid being accurate, if it helps.

Randactyl · 08/05/15, 09:45 AM

I have some monster trophies. I can get PTS item links in about 3 hours if you still want them, Ayantir

08/05/15, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Randactyl

I have some monster trophies. I can get PTS item links in about 3 hours if you still want them, Ayantir

if i want them and she doesn't, i'm screwed.

Ayantir · 08/05/15, 10:24 AM

Just send me a mail on PTS and join Devs guild !!

Already 5 members !

Devs Guilds recruiting, you know Lua more than needed and still don't know how to code ? Devs recruits AFKers of everywhere !

Randactyl · 08/05/15, 12:39 PM

08/05/15, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Randactyl

probably a stupid question, but i still wanna know...

did you find them on PTS or were they copied along your char from NA server? (no idea how this works)

Randactyl · 08/05/15, 01:19 PM

Those were copied from NA

08/05/15, 01:30 PM

Thanks!
i'm gonna tinker something assuming newly picked up trophies will also have the mob level and wait for fresh infos from ZOS

08/07/15, 01:29 PM

Wow, don't bother Dan.

Hi everyone,

We’d like to provide a little insight and clarification on the upcoming changes to collectibles.

Currently, collectible trophies work differently for those obtained via fishing versus those obtained via monster kills. Fishing trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon item pick-up, whereas monster-kill trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon use. This difference was resulting in a high volume of bug reports and feedback in which players thought the collectible trophies were broken. That combined with the availability being limited by level-range prompted us to make the system more intuitive and uniform. That’s where the upcoming changes come in.

So what do those changes consist of? Here’s a short list: •All collectible trophies will now grant the associated achievement when the item is first looted.
•Monster trophies will always drop off appropriate level monsters for your character. A game-wide audit was done to make sure that no matter what level you are, there is always a place you can go to work on collecting the trophy you are looking for.
•Collectible trophies can no longer be banked and traded to another character.
We hope that helps clarify the changes. Please let us know if you have any questions!

great, now fishing has already become a frustrating chore instead of a relaxing time for me. Lucky me got more casual corean games to relax.

**Baertram** · 08/08/15, 05:19 AM

Sad news... And only because some players are to intelligent to simply click and use an item (if I believe the reasons told and don't think about any other reason like more game time = more earnings)? :-(

merlight · 08/08/15, 01:05 PM

A few days ago I found a Daedric Dewclaw on one character, gave it to another and got that tick in achievements. It doesn't make sense, if you ask me. All other achievements are character-bound -- you have to do the quests, dungeons, anchors, kill X type of monster N times, everything has to be done with the character in question. Why should monster trophies be different?

And to be honest -- I know this won't be popular, but I've "grown" on a korean grind-fest so it doesn't seem too crazy to me -- I don't get why dyes are not character-bound. For example, why should my alt, who doesn't know how to hold a needle, be allowed to wear Clothier Purple, just because my main is Master Clothier?

sirinsidiator · 08/08/15, 01:13 PM

Because players are spoiled. Next we will get shared levels... oh wait. we already got champion points.

**Baertram** · 08/09/15, 06:23 AM

It is ok if you look at it like merlight described it. But for me, who is not playing one character until it got all, it's quite annyoing if you'd like to collect the stuff with one character at least.
I don't find the time to play with all characters and most of the time I need to jump in with a tank char, but my most advanced trophys char is the sorcerer.
Until now I got the possibility to collect the stuff with the tank and pass it over to the sorc then, so the sorc got nice looking stuff and was simply proud of having achieved something ^^