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08/26/19, 01:15 AM   #41
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Have tried all the suggested with both 64 and 32 bit versions. Its not blocked by anti virus or firewall. Wont work. Im at a loss of what to try next.
Have you tried using the jar version of minion? I cannot use the one wich comes with a packaged java for some reason. Using the jar version works perfectly but you would have to install a recent java to use it. (I think you have to use a 1.8 java)
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08/26/19, 05:54 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by LaRIC View Post
Have you tried using the jar version of minion? I cannot use the one wich comes with a packaged java for some reason. Using the jar version works perfectly but you would have to install a recent java to use it. (I think you have to use a 1.8 java)
Yep, you can download it here (at the bottom -> Java):
https://minion.mmoui.com/?download

Requires (Java JRE: https://java.com/de/download/: Java 1.8_92+
-> Current version is Java JRE Version 8 Update 221
Run (e.g. in command line, or maybe double click on the Minion-jfx.jar also will work): java -jar Minion-jfx.jar

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08/29/19, 03:03 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Baertram View Post
Yep, you can download it here (at the bottom -> Java):
https://minion.mmoui.com/?download

Requires (Java JRE: https://java.com/de/download/): Java 1.8_92+
-> Current version is Java JRE Version 8 Update 221
Run (e.g. in command line, or maybe double click on the Minion-jfx.jar also will work): java -jar Minion-jfx.jar
The java link you sent doesnt work. Says file not there. Are you saying I need the specific Java 1.8_92+ version instead of the JRE Version 8? The version 8 (latest update) is the one I have installed. I searched for Java 1.8_92+ but still cant find anywhere to download if. I downloaded the minion version as suggested, but not exactly sure how to use anyway. Pulling it out of the zip file.

These are all the java versions I can find. https://java_runtime_environment_-jr.../old_versions/
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08/29/19, 03:22 AM   #44
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The link is the link to the download page of Minion and Iw rote "at the bottom" to show you where you need to click on teh download link for the JAVA version. There is the header line "java" and a big green download button below it

The link to the java download site just got an ) at the end too much. Remove it and you can open it: https://java.com/de/download/

The version 1.8_92+ means any version at minium 1.9_92 or higher (+). The version 8 is higher so it should work.
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08/29/19, 08:31 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Baertram View Post
The link is the link to the download page of Minion and Iw rote "at the bottom" to show you where you need to click on teh download link for the JAVA version. There is the header line "java" and a big green download button below it

The link to the java download site just got an ) at the end too much. Remove it and you can open it: https://java.com/de/download/

The version 1.8_92+ means any version at minium 1.9_92 or higher (+). The version 8 is higher so it should work.
Please pardon my ignorance regarding Minion and computer stuff:-D

Can you list step by step exactly what to do after downloading the minion file? When I click "Minion-jfx.jar" within the rar folder, it just makes another folder pop up. When I pull it out of the rar folder first and then click it..nothing happens.

Do I need to install it somehow first? Right now I have pulled the "Minion-jfx.jar" file, the "lib" folder, and the other folders and files out of the rar folders and put them in one folder labeled Minion.
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08/30/19, 05:17 AM   #46
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No, java jar files are basically a kind of archive liek zip. But they can be executed.

So download the zip file from here first:
https://cdn.mmoui.com/minion/v3/Minion3.0.5-java.zip

Extract all contents (the .jar file and the folder libs) to a directory c:\minion.
Create the folder if it doesn't exists first!

Then open teh command line with admin rights, e.g. press Win key, type "cmd" and you'll see the found command prompt entry. Right click it and say "Run as administrator".

In the command prompt change the directory to the drive and folder where you have extracted the minion jar to with the commands: <return> means you need to press the return key.

c: <return>
cd Minion <return>
Then execute the jar file with the java command:
java -jar Minion-jfx.jar <return>

Normally Minion should run then, using your installed Java JRE (Java runtime environment) version (the command "java" before "-jar Minion-jfx.jar" is executing the java.exe file from your System Environment variables -> They know where the java vesion is installed and uses it) which was mentioned above. Current version is
8 Update 221
https://www.java.com/de/download/win10.jsp

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08/30/19, 07:46 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Baertram View Post
No, java jar files are basically a kind of archive liek zip. But they can be executed.

So download the zip file from here first:
https://cdn.mmoui.com/minion/v3/Minion3.0.5-java.zip

Extract all contents (the .jar file and the folder libs) to a directory c:\minion.
Create the folder if it doesn't exists first!

Then open teh command line with admin rights, e.g. press Win key, type "cmd" and you'll see the found command prompt entry. Right click it and say "Run as administrator".

In the command prompt change the directory to the drive and folder where you have extracted the minion jar to with the commands: <return> means you need to press the return key.

c: <return>
cd Minion <return>
Then execute the jar file with the java command:
java -jar Minion-jfx.jar <return>

Normally Minion should run then, using your installed Java JRE (Java runtime environment) version (the command "java" before "-jar Minion-jfx.jar" is executing the java.exe file from your System Environment variables -> They know where the java vesion is installed and uses it) which was mentioned above. Current version is
8 Update 221
https://www.java.com/de/download/win10.jsp
Thank you for typing all that out. Followed instructions and everything went fine up until I ran
"java -jar Minion-jfx.jar". It still won't start.

The log still shows:

"INFO 2019-08-31 09:32:03,765 [JavaFX Application Thread] gg.minion.Minion:start(43): Attempting to start Minion...
INFO 2019-08-31 09:40:41,557 [JavaFX Application Thread] gg.minion.Minion:start(43): Attempting to start Minion..."

I guess Minion just isn't working for a lot of us. 2 of my buddies also can't get it to run doing same steps. Pretty much giving up for now. First time I've ever had so much difficulty getting an application to work. Used to work fine for about 2 years. Very confusing why it suddenly won't run no matter what. Hopefully the creators will fix it.

Thanks again for your help. If you have any other suggestions and leave them here, I will try later.
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08/30/19, 08:13 PM   #48
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You just answered the reason yourself.
If it ran before and now it doesn't anymore but the Minion executable was not updated since then, it's most probably a problem with your changed software at your computer

You could try to uinstall Java in the control panel and then uninstall Minion and reinstall it.
If this does not work it has to do with some software on your computer. MAybe scan the PC with anti malware, anti trojaner and other antivirus tools toc heck if something is there which shouldn't be.

Tools I know and could recommend are:
Spybot search and destroy 2
CCCleaner
Trojan Remover
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09/01/19, 05:15 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by Baertram View Post
You just answered the reason yourself.
If it ran before and now it doesn't anymore but the Minion executable was not updated since then, it's most probably a problem with your changed software at your computer

You could try to uinstall Java in the control panel and then uninstall Minion and reinstall it.
If this does not work it has to do with some software on your computer. MAybe scan the PC with anti malware, anti trojaner and other antivirus tools toc heck if something is there which shouldn't be.

Tools I know and could recommend are:
Spybot search and destroy 2
CCCleaner
Trojan Remover
I've already done all of that. Minion doesnt work for me, 2 friends, and numerous others I've found online. Hopefully the creators can fix it.
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