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Version: 1.30

by: Rhyono [More]

I've retired from ESO and I am relying on code contributions for maintenance: GitHub Repo

A continuation of Atropos' Foundry Tactical Combat. This is an updated version of Demiknight's patch. The change log has more info, main changes below:

Added the option to show @names in place of character names when in a group (shown in the attached image) or when targeting someone.

Added a keybind for refreshing the group frame. Despite the addon's attempts to the contrary, sometimes it will fail to load a group member(s). This will force an unobtrusive refresh so that you don't have to /reloadui to fix it.

Added the ability to disable healing logs/text out of combat or at all times. Individual options for combat log and scrolling text.

Solinur updated buff tracking.

Required

Version 1.30 (thanks Sharlikran)
*API Bump
*Fixed 13th group member showing in frame

Version 1.29 (thanks Sharlikran)
*Updated IsCritter to function as previously intended
*Added LAM menu toggle to hide or show critters in Target Frame
*Added LAM menu to choose color of Companion health bar
*Possible fix for "frames/functions.lua:621: attempt to index a nil value" when unit frame info is not present
*Removed remaining texture strings using the class name from FTC.Frames:Controls() during Initialize to address "frames/controls.lua:105: operator .. is not supported for nil .. string"
*Updated SafetyCheck()

Version 1.28 (thanks Sharlikran)
*Fixed LAM2 var scope
*Check for nil unitTags

Version 1.27 (thanks Sharlikran)
*Added companion support

Version 1.26 (thanks Sharlikran)
*Updated Ability IDs
*Updated more CombatMechanicFlags
*Added constants for clarity when used for specific abilities
*Companion damage/healing will now output to log
*Updated FTC:GetAbilityIcons() to use proper GetNumXxxx()

Version 1.25 (thanks Sharlikran)
*Replaced FTC.Player:GetClass() with ZOS API
*Updated Powertype flags to CombatMechanicFlags
*Fixed leaking variables
*Improved LAM menu color picker handling

Version 1.24 (thanks hypatian)
*API Bump
*Fixed GetClass() to add Arcanist support

Version 1.23
*API Bump
*Fix for ResizeToFitDescendents (thanks fugue)
*Safety check for unit tags (thanks fugue)

Version 1.22 (thanks DaddyDoos)
*API Bump
*Fixed window priority
*Fixed some keybinds

Version 1.21
*API Bump
*Fix for TLC error (thanks fugue)

Version 1.20 - API Bump
Version 1.19 - Fixed typo
Version 1.18 - Fixed companion conflict with shields on group frames and attributes
Version 1.17 - Fixed companion conflict with group frames (thanks mitbulls)

Version 1.16
*API Bump
*Fixed max xp error

Version 1.15 - Fixed compatability due to API changes

Version 1.14 - API Bump
Version 1.13 - API Bump
Version 1.12 - API Bump

Version 1.11 (Scootworks) - Fixed issue when combat log turned off (from v1.10)

Version 1.10 (Scootworks)
*Fixed log/chat alternating
*Additional improvements to chat checks

Version 1.09 (Scootworks)
*Removed BOM from manifest for better non-English support
*Additional improvements to chat checks

Version 1.08 (sirinsidiator) - Ensure chat is loaded on player activate

Version 1.07 (Scootworks)
*Ensure chat is loaded in stats
*Use newer API function for stats to chat

Version 1.06
*API Bump
*Directly loading LibMsgWin without LibStub

Version 1.05 - API Bump
Version 1.04 - API Bump
Version 1.03 - API Bump

Version 1.02
*Switched to direct LMW reference (r9)
*Unbundled LibMsgWin

Version 1.01
*Switched to direct LAM reference (r28)
*Fixed LibMsgWin API versioning

Version 1.0.1 - Fixed nil error
Version 1.0 - Fixed compatibility for LAM 27 (thanks Baertram & sirinsidiator)
Version 0.99.1 - Possibly fixed bad upload

Version 0.99
*API Bump
*Added Warden/Necro class names
*Added AddOnVersion to LibMsgWin to avoid versioning issue

Version 0.98 - Added compatibility with Unit Frames Rebirth (Scootworks)

Version 0.97
*Made most libraries standalone
*Increased raid column size choices
*Increased raid frame width range
*Updated LibMsgWin

Version 0.96 - API Bump
Version 0.95 - API Bump
Version 0.94 - Group role color update immediately after role change (Antisenil)
Version 0.93 - Group role colors now use the singular queued in role (Antisenil & Hoft)
Version 0.92 - API Bump

Version 0.91 (Scootworks)
*For devs: added FTC.Frames:GetUltimateFrame(unitTag)
*Adjusted group shield bar layer
*Fixed transposed German strings
*Updated LAM

Version 0.90
*API Bump
*Possible fix to raid group frame issue.

Version 0.89
*Added title bar toggle to target.
*Fixed target shield bar color.

Version 0.88
*Target frame has its own in combat opacity slider.
*Frame fade animation function modified.

Version 0.87
*Global font color for the addon (some exceptions) has been added.
*Target frame has its own width and height sliders.

Version 0.86
*API Bump
*Units with health over 1 million now shown in millions.
*Fixed mount stamina bar not deactivating on demount.
*Target frame has its own out of combat opacity slider.

Version 0.85
*API Bump
*Updated LAM.
*Removed workaround for old LAM bug.
*Removed some old messages and contact information.
*Fixed group DPS window blocking mouse when turned off.

Version 0.84 - Added @Name toggle to target frame.
Version 0.83 - API Bump
Version 0.82 - API Bump
Version 0.81 - Added a toggle to levels being shown in the target frame.
Version 0.80 - Added a toggle to levels being shown in the group frame.

Version 0.79
*Fixed scrolling XP progress for CP levels
*Added tenths place to scrolling XP progress
*Shows sub-50 character level and CP level on player bar

Version 0.78
*Added hide healing/hide healing ooc for combat log and scrolling text
*Improved the combat log entry for falling in English.

Version 0.77
*Updated buff tracking (Solinur)
*/ftc now pulls up FTC's settings specifically

Version 0.76
*Fixed extra spaces in combat log entries.
*Disabled welcome message for now.
*Added frames refresh keybind.

Version 0.75
*API Bump
*Fixed a rounding error on the ultimate percentage display.
*Added the option to show @names in place of character names when in a group.

Version 0.74 (Demiknight)

Version 0.72 and earlier (Atropos)

Archived Files (52)

File Name	Version	Size	Uploader	Date
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.29	161kB	Rhyono	07/13/23 07:04 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.28	161kB	Rhyono	07/07/23 08:36 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.27	161kB	Rhyono	07/05/23 08:55 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.26	135kB	Rhyono	06/19/23 05:17 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.25	388kB	Rhyono	06/07/23 06:25 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Necrom	1.24	326kB	Rhyono	06/06/23 08:04 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Scribes of Fate	1.23	312kB	Rhyono	03/15/23 06:44 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Lost Depths	1.22	139kB	Rhyono	08/31/22 04:32 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - High Isle	1.21	139kB	Rhyono	06/07/22 07:05 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Deadlands	1.20	139kB	Rhyono	09/25/21 06:02 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Blackwood	1.19	139kB	Rhyono	07/04/21 12:11 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Blackwood	1.17	139kB	Rhyono	06/21/21 07:18 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Blackwood	1.16	139kB	Rhyono	05/15/21 05:13 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - FoA	1.15	139kB	Rhyono	03/08/21 10:52 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - FoA	1.14	139kB	Rhyono	02/28/21 12:13 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Markarth	1.13	139kB	Rhyono	11/01/20 10:35 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Stonethorn	1.12	139kB	Rhyono	08/08/20 11:54 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Greymoor	1.11	139kB	Rhyono	05/02/20 06:53 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Greymoor	1.09	139kB	Rhyono	04/30/20 12:41 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Greymoor	1.08	139kB	Rhyono	04/29/20 11:58 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Greymoor	1.07	139kB	Rhyono	04/29/20 11:56 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Greymoor	1.06	139kB	Rhyono	04/25/20 05:06 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Harrowstorm	1.05	139kB	Rhyono	01/26/20 02:49 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Dragonhold	1.04	139kB	Rhyono	09/19/19 01:52 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Scalebreaker	1.03	139kB	Rhyono	07/21/19 09:20 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Elsweyr	1.02	139kB	Rhyono	05/20/19 12:10 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Elsweyr	1.01	142kB	Rhyono	05/01/19 12:03 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Elsweyr	1.0.1	142kB	Rhyono	04/27/19 04:26 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Elsweyr	0.99.1	142kB	Rhyono	04/20/19 06:48 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Wrathstone	0.98	142kB	Rhyono	04/02/19 11:28 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Wrathstone	0.97	142kB	Rhyono	03/07/19 09:10 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Wrathstone	0.96	184kB	Rhyono	01/26/19 06:53 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Murkmire	0.95	184kB	Rhyono	08/19/18 08:04 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Wolfhunter	0.93	184kB	Rhyono	08/18/18 07:49 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Wolfhunter	0.92	184kB	Rhyono	08/12/18 10:03 AM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Summerset	0.91	184kB	Rhyono	06/30/18 04:03 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Summerset	0.90	184kB	Rhyono	04/16/18 07:41 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - DB	0.89	184kB	Rhyono	03/11/18 08:32 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - DB	0.88	183kB	Rhyono	03/09/18 09:59 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - DB	0.87	183kB	Rhyono	03/09/18 08:26 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - DB	0.86	183kB	Rhyono	01/13/18 02:43 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - CC	0.85	183kB	Rhyono	10/09/17 03:15 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - HotR	0.84	180kB	Rhyono	09/11/17 09:58 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - HotR	0.83	179kB	Rhyono	07/15/17 06:31 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Morrowind	0.82	179kB	Rhyono	05/22/17 01:39 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.81	179kB	Rhyono	04/25/17 07:03 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.80	179kB	Rhyono	04/25/17 06:46 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.79	179kB	Rhyono	03/28/17 06:33 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.78	179kB	Rhyono	03/22/17 08:19 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.77	178kB	Rhyono	03/05/17 04:23 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.76	178kB	Rhyono	02/27/17 07:48 PM
Foundry Tactical Combat (FTC) - Homestead	0.75	178kB		02/17/17 10:27 PM

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07/10/23, 06:44 AM

Sharlikran

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Re: Re: Re: FTC error text

Originally Posted by bigfire711

So, I do have the current version, downloaded it JUST before replying, and am still getting the same error as well as not being able to change any addon setting at all.

Then I will need you to provide a link to your LibDebugLogger.lua file under SavedVariables from sirinsidiator's website, and a copy of your FoundryTacticalCombat.lua file under SavedVariables.

https://github.com/Rhyono/Foundry-Ta...mbat/issues/12

All the details are at that website link.

Last edited by Sharlikran : 07/10/23 at 11:22 AM.

07/10/23, 02:11 AM

bigfire711

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Re: Re: FTC error text

Originally Posted by Sharlikran

Code:

user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: operator .. is not supported for nil .. string
stack traceback:
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: in function 'FTC.Frames:Controls'
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/functions.lua:96: in function 'FTC.Frames:Initialize'
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/FoundryTacticalCombat.lua:90: in function 'FTC.Initialize'

Originally Posted by bigfire711

So, i am having issues with FTC at the moment. it was working just fine last week and I even tried deleting what I had and redownload it and its dependencies. this is the error message that I get.
Edit: worked for my Necro and Templar but not the Arcanist class

You would have to explain exactly how this happens and possibly change settings to see if you disable/enable something that causes this. I have not seen that error at all. I have been playing solely on my Arcanist because I am leveling it.

Make sure you get the current version though because if you don't any new error will not match line numbers.

So, I do have the current version, downloaded it JUST before replying, and am still getting the same error as well as not being able to change any addon setting at all. I even tried making a new Arcanist, same thing. Went to a toon where the addon works properly and reset all of FTC and still have the error screen. this is my screen upon UI reload.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...2765/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7418/image.png

and this is how the actual UI of the addon looks like:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...6435/image.png

I don't know if that give enough info to help but like I said it only affects my Arcanist and no other class.

Last edited by bigfire711 : 07/10/23 at 02:26 AM.

07/08/23, 10:53 AM

Sharlikran

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Originally Posted by notyuu

if I join a group where somebody has a companion active said companion is listed in the group window as if they were a player but only if I am in the same zone as them

That is a little different. It's simply how the game works.

I had put in a post earlier some of the unit identifiers for example group1, group2, group1companion, and group2companion.

They are used with ZOS functions to check if the unit exists which is a misleading name. The unit identifiers might be valid in the sense that because the max group size is 12 you can have from group1 to group12 as a valid identifier. If it exists and if it is in range is dependent on the server.

So similar to the error you already reported I have to check the following

* identifiers (group1, group1companion)
* does it exist (dependent on range, zone, etc)
* is the unit in range

After all that is done then I can get the health, if the unit is dead, or whatever. If I don't players will have a similar error to what you already reported.

So the group size will change depending on how close you are to a player and whether or not the player has the companion summoned. Likewise if you are a certain distance from the player their companion may show up but walk a little further and it won't. Run towards them and it will show up again.

It's how the game works but because of how the game works is why I made that design choice. I don't want to gray it out and change the color and just leave it there. Because I can't get any information from the server about the unit anyway.

I also made that choice because if you're in a group with ten people then you can only have two companions since the max is 12. So I only want to display what the server is reporting as valid units as it decides what to do with each player and companion.

Last edited by Sharlikran : 07/08/23 at 06:01 PM.

07/08/23, 08:55 AM

notyuu

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Originally Posted by Sharlikran

Originally Posted by notyuu

Yeah it did help, after some testin about no errors in any group comp containing any number of arcanists, including 4 arcanists in a group via group finder.

Thank you.

I updated some of the functionality even though as I mentioned it's not really adding Acracist support. I'm simply using more of the current functions from ZOS. Then I added companion support. I'm not the original author and I don't know much about the inner workings. However, I can look into something else if you have noticed anything.

Because to a programmer, "about no" can mean none or "well there is this other thing" so if you noticed something else let me know.

Or another thing is provide a LibDebugLogger link from the author's website. https://sir.insidi.at/or/logviewer/ which is more helpful really then providing the error itself.

I'll keep that in mind and will do, although I do have some odd, but not determneal behaviour to report since the last update ya pushed, if you can't be bothered to fix it then no worries, just thought you should at least know

if I join a group where somebody has a companion active said companion is listed in the group window as if they were a player but only if I am in the same zone as them, sub instances such as delves and public dungons do not display the companion, it gives no error messages, also the group refresh hotkey works like a dream

Again, not going "ahhh fix it fix it fix it fix it" and instead going "hmm, that's intresting, should let them know just incase somebody else complains"

07/08/23, 02:08 AM

Sharlikran

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Originally Posted by notyuu

Yeah it did help, after some testin about no errors in any group comp containing any number of arcanists, including 4 arcanists in a group via group finder.

Thank you.

Last edited by Sharlikran : 07/08/23 at 03:49 AM.

07/07/23, 11:17 PM

notyuu

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Originally Posted by Sharlikran

Originally Posted by notyuu

Thank you for both the explain and the update (if that was you that did it)

I did, but the description page mentions already that there can be issues and there is a keybind to refresh the group.

Did the update help? Regardless of class can you join a group using the dungeon finder without errors? Watch for the error especially when it's just you, or when you and someone else are joining 2 other people. Let me know if it's still happening.

Yeah it did help, after some testin about no errors in any group comp containing any number of arcanists, including 4 arcanists in a group via group finder.

Thank you.

07/07/23, 01:42 PM

Sharlikran

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Originally Posted by notyuu

Thank you for both the explain and the update (if that was you that did it)

Last edited by Sharlikran : 07/07/23 at 03:33 PM.

07/07/23, 10:45 AM

notyuu

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Originally Posted by Sharlikran

I am happy to look into this but that function only determines whether or not the game's unit ID is group1, group2, group3, group4 etc or, group1companion, group2companion, group3companion, group4companion

Although knowing it takes more then one Archanist seems good to know and while I will take that into consideration there is probably nothing I can do about that.

This mod is not class specific. There is nothing about this mod that cares what class you are. Shields and Taunts are dependent on the ability ID not the class. So I apologize ahead of time but I doubt that the class has anything to do with it at all.

The error doesn't even matter in regards to class. It's more likely that once you join a group from the group finder that the game does not have all the unit identifiers ready. So there is a chance that the server simply has not made the information available.

The error means the information I am looking at was not populated by the server yet.

Meaning if I check to see if the unit information is present and bail out if it isn't then you may join a dungeon and the frames don't work. I can't make the server do anything to correct for anything. It's not possible to write code that tells the server you are in a group, so just work better.

Thank you for both the explain and the update (if that was you that did it)

07/06/23, 02:46 PM
Sharlikran Forum posts: 573 File comments: 1939 Uploads: 15	I am happy to look into this but that function only determines whether or not the game's unit ID is group1, group2, group3, group4 etc or, group1companion, group2companion, group3companion, group4companion Although knowing it takes more then one Archanist seems good to know and while I will take that into consideration there is probably nothing I can do about that. This mod is not class specific. There is nothing about this mod that cares what class you are. Shields and Taunts are dependent on the ability ID not the class. So I apologize ahead of time but I doubt that the class has anything to do with it at all. The error doesn't even matter in regards to class. It's more likely that once you join a group from the group finder that the game does not have all the unit identifiers ready. So there is a chance that the server simply has not made the information available. The error means the information I am looking at was not populated by the server yet. Meaning if I check to see if the unit information is present and bail out if it isn't then you may join a dungeon and the frames don't work. I can't make the server do anything to correct for anything. It's not possible to write code that tells the server you are in a group, so just work better. Last edited by Sharlikran : 07/06/23 at 06:12 PM.

07/06/23, 06:18 AM
notyuu Forum posts: 0 File comments: 18 Uploads: 0	errors? Since the update for the addon came out today, every time I join a group via the group finder that contains more than 2 arcanists, including myself, I get slapped with the following errors bad argument #1 to 'string.find' (string expected, got nil) stack traceback: [C]: in function 'string.find' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/character/functions.lua:166: in function 'FTC.Group:IsUnitTagGroupTag' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/character/functions.lua:205: in function 'FTC.Player:UpdateAttribute' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/functions.lua:933: in function 'FTC.Frames:SafetyCheck' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/functions.lua:115: in function '(anonymous)' 1 arcanist, no errors 2 arcanists, no errors 3+ arcanists, errors which persist until the group is left Last edited by notyuu : 07/06/23 at 09:51 AM.

07/05/23, 09:23 PM

Sharlikran

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Re: FTC error text

Code:

user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: operator .. is not supported for nil .. string
stack traceback:
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: in function 'FTC.Frames:Controls'
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/functions.lua:96: in function 'FTC.Frames:Initialize'
user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/FoundryTacticalCombat.lua:90: in function 'FTC.Initialize'

Originally Posted by bigfire711

07/02/23, 12:17 PM
bigfire711 Forum posts: 0 File comments: 3 Uploads: 0	FTC error text So, i am having issues with FTC at the moment. it was working just fine last week and I even tried deleting what I had and redownload it and its dependencies. this is the error message that I get. Edit: worked for my Necro and Templar but not the Arcanist class user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: operator .. is not supported for nil .. string stack traceback: user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/controls.lua:105: in function 'FTC.Frames:Controls' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/frames/functions.lua:96: in function 'FTC.Frames:Initialize' user:/AddOns/FoundryTacticalCombat/FoundryTacticalCombat.lua:90: in function 'FTC.Initialize' Last edited by bigfire711 : 07/04/23 at 11:43 AM.

06/19/23, 05:18 PM

Rhyono

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Originally Posted by Baertram

Hi,
please remove ANY hidden files and folders from the zip prior to uploading it!

Folder e.g.
FoundryTacticalCombat/.git/

Thank you

Fixed.

06/11/23, 03:31 AM

ApoAlaia

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Originally Posted by Sharlikran

When you see those boxes it means the font doesn't have that Glyph. That's the real end all of the discussion. The game itself has default fonts and they can not be changed. You can alter certain things but not the default fonts. It's not allowed. Say I want my own custom font to be used for chat. Then I want another custom font to be the backup font. So to any user that's changing the default font. What I mean is that the way ZOS allows us to change fonts we can specify the fonts to use for the primary font and the backup font. Not the real internal default font. I have already talked to the devs about that because I needed to do that for the Korean translation and they said it's not allowed.

How you have a font that doesn't have that glyph being used, no idea. I didn't do whatever you did on your end.

Or the other possibility, it's not Mac or Windows. It's Linux, Unix, Wine, or whatever other non windows Unix flavor. Which is not supported.

> With FTC - and even with FTC alone installed with no other addons whatsoever

Well to me that's pretty through but to most users that means they have all the mods installed they want installed but only have the one active they are testing with. That's not really one mod alone. So to me FTC alone and no addons is only three folders.

Also some people love to change things while the game is running and for fonts you can't do that. So if you make a new folder and install the three things you need and still have the issue it's system related. You caused it by doing something you felt would be neat or make things look better or just simply trying to fix what you thought was a mod issue.

What you are experiencing seems more like a mod changed the font outside of the LUA. You can disable all the mods you want and it won't matter. Because you really can't have any issue like that if I don't. FTC doesn't even change the chat window or the fonts at all. So something else is altering them. Even in xml you can specify fonts and backup fonts. A non standard language mod like Korean or something unofficial could be altering fonts with game files that load before you get to the character screen. Just disabling a mod the game still loads other files if it fits the criteria.

So when you test that, you need to make another addons folder. If you still have the issue then if you can't change PC settings then what else could it be? I use American English. I don't change the language and region settings. If you choose something other then the default then set it back to the default until it works. Then if you set it to whatever you want and you can't see the arrows then don't use that language setting. It's messing with the default fonts somehow. You could have even installed a font that causes the issue.

Which is why I can't troubleshoot those kinds of things.

You have given me some food for thought.

Tomorrow I will spool up another W10 VM (newly spooled up VMs the way I set up the host default to English US language settings, including keyboard layout etc), install ESO 'fresh', then install FTC and the dependencies and test.

I presume I will get the same results as yourself. If that's the case I will change the language settings to English UK and try again.

If still cannot reproduce the error I will start adding add-ons one at a time.

When I tested without any other addons I can't remember if I did so renaming the addons and SV folders - my usual method - or just disabling them once loaded.

Can't really isolate if one is unsure of one's own methods - I did this 'test' more than a year ago, that as far as my memory is concerned is wild country now.

At least is a start

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06/11/23, 02:26 AM
Sharlikran Forum posts: 573 File comments: 1939 Uploads: 15	When you see those boxes it means the font doesn't have that Glyph. That's the real end all of the discussion. The game itself has default fonts and they can not be changed. You can alter certain things but not the default fonts. It's not allowed. Say I want my own custom font to be used for chat. Then I want another custom font to be the backup font. So to any user that's changing the default font. What I mean is that the way ZOS allows us to change fonts we can specify the fonts to use for the primary font and the backup font. Not the real internal default font. I have already talked to the devs about that because I needed to do that for the Korean translation and they said it's not allowed. How you have a font that doesn't have that glyph being used, no idea. I didn't do whatever you did on your end. Or the other possibility, it's not Mac or Windows. It's Linux, Unix, Wine, or whatever other non windows Unix flavor. Which is not supported. > With FTC - and even with FTC alone installed with no other addons whatsoever Well to me that's pretty through but to most users that means they have all the mods installed they want installed but only have the one active they are testing with. That's not really one mod alone. So to me FTC alone and no addons is only three folders. Also some people love to change things while the game is running and for fonts you can't do that. So if you make a new folder and install the three things you need and still have the issue it's system related. You caused it by doing something you felt would be neat or make things look better or just simply trying to fix what you thought was a mod issue. What you are experiencing seems more like a mod changed the font outside of the LUA. You can disable all the mods you want and it won't matter. Because you really can't have any issue like that if I don't. FTC doesn't even change the chat window or the fonts at all. So something else is altering them. Even in xml you can specify fonts and backup fonts. A non standard language mod like Korean or something unofficial could be altering fonts with game files that load before you get to the character screen. Just disabling a mod the game still loads other files if it fits the criteria. So when you test that, you need to make another addons folder. If you still have the issue then if you can't change PC settings then what else could it be? I use American English. I don't change the language and region settings. If you choose something other then the default then set it back to the default until it works. Then if you set it to whatever you want and you can't see the arrows then don't use that language setting. It's messing with the default fonts somehow. You could have even installed a font that causes the issue. Which is why I can't troubleshoot those kinds of things. Last edited by Sharlikran : 06/11/23 at 02:46 AM.

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